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Post by skinny on Sept 9, 2008 13:22:20 GMT 10
LOL.................................very loud, and yes he has found his phone, he called me late on sunday night
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Post by dc on Sept 9, 2008 13:24:18 GMT 10
Macey's arm is only good when it's covered in fake tan....
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Post by seppo on Sept 9, 2008 13:29:15 GMT 10
Very intruiging, but I think accurate predictions there sonuthascray. I would also suspect that we'll be lead by the lanky Pendlebury this year both on the hill and with his bat, but there was a note going around at the rumour mill that Heath was not playing this year and I've yet to see he or his brother at a practice yet. Still, very early days as they may have been playing winter and Father's Day practice traditionally has low numbers, of course.
What's Springy's pitching situation like this year? Same as last or do you think Richardson will pitch slightly less this year? He threw a heck of a lot of innings the past two years and seemed to be less effective against us the final two games, compared to being devistating during the first two!
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Post by jetpilot on Sept 9, 2008 13:38:14 GMT 10
Does anyone know if Wearney stayed at springy or went to Wavo?
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Post by sonuthascray on Sept 9, 2008 13:42:45 GMT 10
I tend to agree with your earlier comments about Richo at 80% being possibly more damaging. However even if you take him out of that lineup they still are a formidable side. Hogan still has more hits than the Beatles and the experience that most of the players seem to have counts for a lot in Div 3. Wearnie always has them well drilled down there at the Lions Den. I think they may have lost a little hunger at Springy, so it will be interesting to see how they come out this year after being outplayed by Willy in the GF last year.
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Post by seppo on Sept 9, 2008 14:00:10 GMT 10
Good question jetpilot (re: Wearney)....anyone?
I agree with your thoughts there. If the hunger is there, they should dominate, with maybe 2 clubs giving them some decent competition. If the hunger isn't there, expect Willy to be taking the top spot with youthful talent, enthusiasm and a lot of hunger. They have some great kids down there and are as aggressive in the box and on the basepaths as anyone. As an observer from the opposite bench last year, I was a bit off-put by some of the coaching tactics I witnessed during a couple of our games. A couple of them (and I have no idea who they are, so don't ask for names), seemed to ride these poor kids pretty hard as the year went on and didn't seem to have much room for compassion or encouragement. Just an observation. We beat Willy in a hard faught contest in mid Jan. last year out at Altona and one of the coaches was so pissed that when he went to shake our hands, all he could muster to say was...."Ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff" It was as if he wanted to tell us all to 'f-off' (and I have no doubt he was trying), but couldn't get the word out he was that mad. Just makes me wonder what sort of 'licking' the kids got in the locker room post game. It was a tough game...3-2 or 2-1 loss, it happens!
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Post by sonuthascray on Sept 9, 2008 14:17:13 GMT 10
Teaching young blokes to not accept defeat is one thing, but carrying on like a goose is another. Happens at all levels but I can't say I ever saw that at Willy. Lets face it when you get done by a solitary run, you don't say anything to the opposition or I imagine they would be quick to point you in the direction of the scoreboard.
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Post by skinny on Sept 9, 2008 14:54:23 GMT 10
actually Seppo, that was me at altona and the reason i said what i said was cause i thought we it was a tied ballgame....it was more of an exassperated ( hope the spelling is correct ) as you put it"fffffffffffffffffff"....................when i realised we actually lost.....as for the fact if they got a pasting after the game, 1: no they didnt and 2:, what i did point out was the positives from the game and for memory, we left about 8 runners on, so we were getting on base but Preston played great D and heath threw and outstanding game that night....
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Post by seppo on Sept 9, 2008 15:03:39 GMT 10
Good to know and thanks for the honest reply! Glad to hear the kids didn't get a pasting after the game. It was a good game on both sides and now that you have put the exasperated 'fffffffffffffffffff' into context, I certainly can understand the frustration and disapointment at the time!
I'm beginning to see why this forum is such a good thing to have. If you look at the two posts, you get the two very different points of view and can begin to understand the whole picture without having to assume anything anymore!
I look forward to hopefully having similar contested matches this season. I think you'd agree that (after seeing us last season) had we pitched more like Heath did that night, more consistently, we'd certainly have made the top 4. As it was, we missed out by percentage points, which was highly disappointing. I think with Stu at the helm, defense and hitting will be a strong focus this year, but I think he'll have a quicker 'hook' on the pitching staff than Geoff had last year.
Now that I know what club you're affiliated with Skinny, what are your thoughts on the upcoming season in our division? Would you agree with sonuthascray's predictions or have any other thoughts (all biases aside)?
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Post by sonuthascray on Sept 9, 2008 15:07:36 GMT 10
8 runners left on in a 1 run ball-game "Ouch!" so what were the positives, your onbase percentage?
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Post by skinny on Sept 9, 2008 15:46:54 GMT 10
Springvale still to dominate if Richo and Hogs are healthy..... We will be ok this year...dont expect a hangover to happen...( i wont allow that)lol Still not sure about your boys...heard on the weekend Heath,J.ake not going to be there and also Cameron Deeble..... Port to be there abouts as i said earlier Berwick to be the big improvers...Mouse has them going ok Chelsea........will win some games but dont know about there depth..... St Kilda......once again, will win more than they lose............
throw a net over the others........no disrespect to those teams either
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Post by jetpilot on Sept 9, 2008 16:00:07 GMT 10
Skinny, Will you guys be able to go up next year?
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Post by skinny on Sept 9, 2008 16:17:57 GMT 10
my understanding is yes.......along with a couple of other teams to make it a 12 team comp....who knows.....a decision has to be made on the structure first....
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Post by mop on Sept 9, 2008 16:24:52 GMT 10
giv'em a pasting anyways! See who can bounce back and see runs back under mummy's skirt!
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Post by nudrun on Sept 9, 2008 16:41:58 GMT 10
hey mop have you found it yet
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Post by mop on Sept 9, 2008 16:54:59 GMT 10
hey mop have you found it yet
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Post by nudrun on Sept 9, 2008 17:00:12 GMT 10
just look for the steam
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Post by seppo on Sept 9, 2008 18:03:33 GMT 10
Springvale still to dominate if Richo and Hogs are healthy..... We will be ok this year...dont expect a hangover to happen...( i wont allow that)lol Still not sure about your boys...heard on the weekend Heath,J.ake not going to be there and also Cameron Deeble..... Port to be there abouts as i said earlier Berwick to be the big improvers...Mouse has them going ok Chelsea........will win some games but dont know about there depth..... St Kilda......once again, will win more than they lose............ throw a net over the others........no disrespect to those teams either I'd agree with most of that. Could be true about Heath & Jake, though Jake did show at our first 'official' club practice, but did not participate. Like I said, haven't seen Heath yet, but I'd expect Cam Deeble to be with us again. He was there and participated at the first practice. Also, I expect Geoff Rietschel to play 2nd for us this year now that he's not coaching as well as assistant coach Dave Maloney who was club MVP only a couple years back and can pitch as well. We also picked up a big player with solid defensive skills and decent power. Have yet to obviously see him play a game, but he looks the part (Brett ??). I'm guessing he knows Stu. Stu might even pick up a bat, perhaps as DH? Either way, I think we'll be significantly stronger this year, even if we have some losses to absorb.
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Post by sonuthascray on Sept 10, 2008 9:49:39 GMT 10
It's hard to fill holes left by exiting players at any level so looks like Pirates have done ok there. What happened to Hellingman? He still around the club? He used to be able to mash the ball and also eat up inns on the mound.
Also, and this would be of interest to you Seppo, a very good mate of mine who was playing coach of Bendigo East this winter is in the process of moving to Melb for work related reasons and has Pirates on his short list. Both him and I played for Preston in summer 99-00. I don't know if he has approached the club yet, but he would be a real bonus for any Div 2 or 3 club.
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Post by seppo on Sept 10, 2008 11:11:26 GMT 10
Troy's still around. Past two season's or so he's been the pitching coach, mainly working with our younger pitchers (I think his time has been lessened by work first, marriage second) so you know how that is. The last season he actually helped on the mound was probably 2-3 seasons ago, maybe 4 now, but great guy and great pitching coach for all of us. He helped me tremendously.
I'll send you a private note when I return from a meeting about your mate. Would like to get in touch and invite him over. Thanks for the tip, mate!
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Post by skyhigh on Sept 10, 2008 22:17:28 GMT 10
chardy you talk so much dribble, now you are canning the bottom 4 in division 1 and div 2 and div 3 teams, the reality is that if clubs like yours doncaster melbourne malvern and a few others would stop poaching players from other clubs then they would be competitive against the better teams. clubs like preston develop talent for clubs to steal their players, you guys have probably 2 home grown players on your team
START DEVELOPING YOUR OWN PLAYERS INSTEAD OF STEALING OTHERS, my club would be in Div 1 if its players werent poached. i cant believe your comment about having 10 teams when you guys and malvern have no home grown players, you guys should be in Div 2 for not developing your own, you guys are disgraceful
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Post by Chardy on Sept 10, 2008 23:42:55 GMT 10
sky high - we have been over this, see previous posts. Your club might be in Div 1 if it werent for your decent players wanting to leave for whatever reason. No one holds a gun to anyones head... Looks like clubs like Blackburn and Malvern provide a club where players want to continue playing the game and enjoying it. Its an amatuer sport for christs sake - players move for all sorts of reasons.
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Post by southside on Sept 11, 2008 13:50:38 GMT 10
chardy you talk so much dribble, now you are canning the bottom 4 in division 1 and div 2 and div 3 teams, the reality is that if clubs like yours doncaster melbourne malvern and a few others would stop poaching players from other clubs then they would be competitive against the better teams. clubs like preston develop talent for clubs to steal their players, you guys have probably 2 home grown players on your team START DEVELOPING YOUR OWN PLAYERS INSTEAD OF STEALING OTHERS, my club would be in Div 1 if its players werent poached. i cant believe your comment about having 10 teams when you guys and malvern have no home grown players, you guys should be in Div 2 for not developing your own, you guys are disgraceful Talk about yarp... how many players developed at Doncaster are now doing the heavy rounds at other clubs? Same sop story could be told each year by different clubs, in different leagues, in different sports, in different countries (get my drift yet). Wah wah wah... It's called a "Circle of Life" - for more information, consult "The Lion King" but this time stay off the wacky-tobacci. Happy players don't leave happy clubs.
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Post by southside on Sept 11, 2008 13:52:33 GMT 10
... that's why you're junior member and I'm a Grand Pubah I'm more informed (doesn't explain Chardy!)
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Post by p26 on Sept 11, 2008 14:11:50 GMT 10
Spot on Southside. Plus, how many current starting nine at Blackburn came from lower grade clubs?
Let's think:
Chardy, Boothy - Malvern Dingle, Tierneys, Bumpstead, Hussy - Blackburn D Mack - Doncaster B Wilson - Bonbeach Weichard - Doncaster
Should I keep going?
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Post by southside on Sept 11, 2008 16:31:15 GMT 10
It seems so easy to forget that some players are standouts in their teams (in Div2) for MANY years and then finally get jack of being (as it was so eloquently put elsewhere) yoyo's.
Seeing skyhigh started this, let's continue the thread and have a go at some upcoming changes; Blackley/s, Rutgers, Stokes, ... should we keep going, or do you want to bag out these guys too? I'm sure they'd appreciate it.
Take two doses of HARDEN UP and if symptoms persist, get over it.
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Post by johne on Sept 11, 2008 17:34:24 GMT 10
I.... Take two doses of HARDEN UP and if symptoms persist, get over it. Is that a Pfizer product?
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Post by skyhigh on Sept 11, 2008 23:47:33 GMT 10
you guys are all lost, that really helps develop the sport, the strong get stronger and the weak die, it is going to be real good ewhen you only have yourself to play, remember chardy and southside you are only as strong as your weakest link(your weakest club). that is why the ABL went down
i forgot my father always told me dont get into arguements with drunks and idiots, looks like i have found 2 on one blog
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Post by dc on Sept 11, 2008 23:54:18 GMT 10
chardy you talk so much dribble, now you are canning the bottom 4 in division 1 and div 2 and div 3 teams, the reality is that if clubs like yours doncaster melbourne malvern and a few others would stop poaching players from other clubs then they would be competitive against the better teams. clubs like preston develop talent for clubs to steal their players, you guys have probably 2 home grown players on your team START DEVELOPING YOUR OWN PLAYERS INSTEAD OF STEALING OTHERS, my club would be in Div 1 if its players werent poached. i cant believe your comment about having 10 teams when you guys and malvern have no home grown players, you guys should be in Div 2 for not developing your own, you guys are disgraceful I love your passion skyhigh but seriously, stop for a second. A club of fee paying players is a fragile thing. People come and go for work, family and becaue they want to play somewhere else. This might be for friends, money or maybe because they feel they'll be happy somewhere else. The point is you should be doing everything you can to make sure your club has a seniors culture that people want to be a part of when they come through. It's a sport of ameaturs and when people move clubs it's because the WANT to. I mean if someone came and asked you to leave would you? No. I wouldn't because I'm happy but some people feel they'll be happier elsewhere and they move on. The point I'm getting to is I'd be taking a good look at your club and starting asking the question "Why do people leave?" Rather than pointing the finger at Blackburn, Malvern and Doncaster for having a club culture that people want to be a part of.
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Post by p26 on Sept 12, 2008 2:09:02 GMT 10
I'd be interested to know which club it is and which players were poached? To be honest, I struggle to think of too many examples of players from lower divisions being actively poached. Maybe half a dozen come to mind and they tend to be players who need to be exposed to higher levels of baseball very quickly to ensure they get signed (Cody Hams for example).
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