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Post by rammo on Aug 29, 2011 20:11:32 GMT 10
Looks like venues have been sorted...
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Post by sanchez2 on Aug 29, 2011 23:57:07 GMT 10
So what are the predictions for this week? I think the penguins will come out swinging after dropping their last game to FHBC
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2011 23:58:33 GMT 10
So what are the predictions for this week? I think the penguins will come out swinging after dropping their last game to FHBC I hope so or they won't go too far!
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Post by farnt on Aug 30, 2011 9:01:05 GMT 10
Hope it doesn't rain Saturday or get washed out...got the whole family coming around for lunch Sunday so it will not go down well to not be there. As much as I want to play and finals are gold, I'm sure I'm not alone with potentially having to face this challenge.
Having said that - it's my day and I'll do what I want to!
Wouldn't want that to get washed out on Sunday too or to be playing in a retarding basin...then again i'd take the win after giving up six or seven hours of my weekend ;-)
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Post by 4crownies on Aug 30, 2011 10:29:25 GMT 10
Looks like venues have been sorted... Why would Footscray be playing Knox at Croydon in D2? Croydon don't even have a team in that division. I thought if you couldn't host the game it went to the opposition, as has the E1 game where Wheelers Hill have to play a home final in Broadford
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Post by soap on Aug 30, 2011 10:45:53 GMT 10
Looks like venues have been sorted... Why would Footscray be playing Knox at Croydon in D2? Croydon don't even have a team in that division. I thought if you couldn't host the game it went to the opposition, as has the E1 game where Wheelers Hill have to play a home final in Broadford Look at most of the other divisions. That isn't happening for them. And I live closer to Croydon than Knox, so I'm fine with it (Seeing we aren't at Knox)
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Post by 4crownies on Aug 30, 2011 12:02:52 GMT 10
Why would Footscray be playing Knox at Croydon in D2? Croydon don't even have a team in that division. I thought if you couldn't host the game it went to the opposition, as has the E1 game where Wheelers Hill have to play a home final in Broadford Look at most of the other divisions. That isn't happening for them. And I live closer to Croydon than Knox, so I'm fine with it (Seeing we aren't at Knox) That's because their grounds are already in use. Maybe i'm missing something. Give me an example
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Post by farnt on Aug 30, 2011 15:14:19 GMT 10
My understanding is you play at the higher placed team ground unless that ground is already in use, and if so then a neutral ground is used. Higher divisions take priority too. For another example C Grade - Watsonia (3rd) v Ringwood (4th) is at Bundoora as in A Reserve Watsonia (1st) v GMBC (2nd) is at Watsonia. Bundoora isn't in C Grade so fair result as a fair quality ground (compared to playing on the back diamond at Ringwood)!
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Post by slowmotion on Aug 30, 2011 18:58:09 GMT 10
Hey farnt have you ever played on the back diamond at ringwood?
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Post by farnt on Aug 30, 2011 20:14:47 GMT 10
Yep, have you played at Bundoora Slowmo? Any rain and the back diamond at RW holds it all. Bundoora is a fair quality ground and IMHO a little better than the back diamond at RW.
I'm sure the Watsonia guys would prefer to play at Bundoora is also part my point, as it is a local to Watsonia and a neutral ground to both teams, as opposed to finishing third and having to play at Rinwood's home ground after they finished fourth.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2011 21:21:07 GMT 10
Not sure of the Leagues policy re ground allocation for Semi's aside from Highest team gets the Home Final in the Semi...... but Id add that IF the Higher team cant use its Home diamond it goes into a pool of teams needing a different ground, and then the League (after finding out which clubs are prepared to offer their ground - which half the time is the problem the League has of course as many dont offer) then offers the Highest finishing team of this group that is in the Highest grade the 1st pick of the remaining available grounds and so on down the grades until the grounds are all occupied.
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Post by MWBL PRES on Aug 31, 2011 22:06:05 GMT 10
Hi guys, just to let you know, the ground allocation for finals policy (although not written) for the past couple of years has been that the team finishing highest on the ladder (semi finals) will get he home final, if the ground isn't available (maybe A grade and A res finished on top, or 1st & 3rd) then we look for a suitable neutral ground and if this can't be found, then we go to the lower placed team's ground. There are some situations that make a ground unavailable. Clubs with multiple teams in finals but only 1 ground, clubs that can not use their ground after August due to council regulations or council works commencing or at times, for some clubs, with multiple teams in finals, the logistics of setting up grounds is difficult. Seeing as the only advantage a team gets in the first week of the finals if they finish highest is to get the home final, we feel that offering a neutral ground is only fair. Unfortuantely, when we run out of available or suitable neutral grounds, we have to play at the 'oppositions' ground.
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Post by rammo on Sept 1, 2011 9:47:39 GMT 10
Just to confirm the amended finals playing conditions..
Does the game cease 2 hour and 45 mins after the start time regardless of completion of inning? The scores revert back statement after 2h45m is a bit ambiguous. (understand 5 min rule etc)
e.g. Home team in front at 2h22m New inning starts (5 min rule not enforced) and away team takes 15 mins to score appropriate runs to take the lead. This means at 2h37m that the home team either has 8m to score enough runs to win OR just bat out until 2h45m and scores revert?
I am obviously not talking about an A or B Grade game here.
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Post by lardio on Sept 1, 2011 15:17:50 GMT 10
good point rammo, on a slightly different point, what happens if the game is tied from the 7inn at the 2 hour mark for the last 45 mins, what does it revert back to? surely not who had the lead last???
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Post by bobby on Sept 1, 2011 15:43:17 GMT 10
Hey Pres,
Can you explain to me why teams play for 2 hours all season and then when it comes to finals it goes to 9 innings? Team have played 2 hours all season and made finals because of it and then they have to play 9 inn and that can take alot longer?
Cheers
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Post by rammo on Sept 2, 2011 8:05:15 GMT 10
I have been informed that:
a) The game will end at 2 hours and 45 mins just like a junior game does. Hence the reverting of scores.
b) Lardio - I have also been informed that if the game is tied after 2 hours 45 mins then the home side (higher side on the ladder) goes through.
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Post by Diesel on Sept 3, 2011 17:20:37 GMT 10
B Grade Final Waverley 15 - Knox 10
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Post by thehotcorner on Sept 3, 2011 17:45:17 GMT 10
Greensborough 11 Def. Croydon 1 Research 28 Def. Heathmont 16
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Post by rammo on Sept 3, 2011 18:12:35 GMT 10
B Res: 2nd Semi Final. Knox lost 1-8 against Westgarth. The young Westgarth lads hit the ball well but a 6 run first inning that included 2 errors and about 3 walks (for 3 unearned runs) didn’t help Knox’s cause.
We also lost two players during the game to “baseball incidents”.
One was a HBP to the cheek requiring ambulance attendance. Just for the record we have a fractured cheek bone (severity to be determined). Slightly disappointed that the game was pushed ahead while both Knox coaches were organising ambulance but I guess I can let that slide.
The second incident was when one David Medlin – captain of the Westgarth Team (which has quite a few junior aged players) and a grown man probably in his 40’s decided that he wasn’t going to slide on a steal attempt at 2nd base and collected our 17-19 year old SS with contact to the head, knocking him to the ground. David then ran off the field with no concern shown for what had just occurred. Again we had to stop the game to attend to our player and make a change due to potential concussion etc.
There are a few people on the forum who know me and would say I don’t “make a fuss” about such things but I felt that this needed to be shared. I would like to point out that I am not blaming these incidents for Knox Twos losing today. Our loose 1st inning and Westgarth’s play was why we lost. I just felt I needed to point out that if it wasn’t for the “dog act” that David put on today, it could have been a well spirited game.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2011 19:41:32 GMT 10
B Res: 2nd Semi Final. Knox lost 1-8 against Westgarth. The young Westgarth lads hit the ball well but a 6 run first inning that included 2 errors and about 3 walks (for 3 unearned runs) didn’t help Knox’s cause. We also lost two players during the game to “baseball incidents”. One was a HBP to the cheek requiring ambulance attendance. Just for the record we have a fractured cheek bone (severity to be determined). Slightly disappointed that the game was pushed ahead while both Knox coaches were organising ambulance but I guess I can let that slide. The second incident was when one David Medlin – captain of the Westgarth Team (which has quite a few junior aged players) and a grown man probably in his 40’s decided that he wasn’t going to slide on a steal attempt at 2nd base and collected our 17-19 year old SS with contact to the head, knocking him to the ground. David then ran off the field with no concern shown for what had just occurred. Again we had to stop the game to attend to our player and make a change due to potential concussion etc. There are a few people on the forum who know me and would say I don’t “make a fuss” about such things but I felt that this needed to be shared. I would like to point out that I am not blaming these incidents for Knox Twos losing today. Our loose 1st inning and Westgarth’s play was why we lost. I just felt I needed to point out that if it wasn’t for the “dog act” that David put on today, it could have been a well spirited game. Rammo, what a f***in peanut comment. Sorry to hear about the 3B, I heard about that and that's a horrible thing to happen, don't wish it on anyone. Hopefully he pulls up alright. As for Dave's incident. I have spoken to our 2s who said Dave stole 2nd. The throw was a couple feet from the bag and the SS has gone off the bag to get it, and he and Dave collided. I have been told there was no malice, no intent to injure, no "dog act" meant by Dave. Yeah, he probably could have slid, but from the few guys I have spoken to in the 2s there was no malice involved. I hope the SS involved is alright, but as I said, by all accounts I've received there was no malice involved. Moving on, Westgarth 3s got done 20-16 by Ringwood, preliminary next week vs Knox/St Kilda I think. Westgarth 1s got up 13-12. Were up 13-6 at one point, but sloppy defense hurt us, and LaTrobe just kept fighting. On to Knox next week I hear. Our last game went down to the very last hitter, so next week should be another good game hopefully.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2011 19:49:05 GMT 10
And by no means am I out to start a Knox vs Westgarth 'war of words.' I know most of the Knox 1s, and have the utmost of respect for them both on and off the field, not to mention Knox Baseball Club, who has a very proud history.
But I felt your comment Rammo was completely unnecessary, and quite frankly was very bush league.
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Post by rammo on Sept 3, 2011 20:04:31 GMT 10
I believe you have me mixed up with someone else.
If it helps I started at 1st base and moved over to 3rd.
and you are right.. "dog act" were harsh words. I acknowledge no malice intended.. I am still a bit miffed/peeved that there was no "is the young lad okay etc". Just run off and try to start the new inning while the kid was still lying on the ground.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2011 20:18:19 GMT 10
Geez the B Grade Finals series just got REALLY interesting !!!! The North Coburg (Reservoir) Bundoora Brumby Rebels U13's combo team won the Div 2 Granny today. Great fun had by all all year and thanks to the Mitchell Major crew who had our number all year but we got them (finally) today. Yeah it was Div 2 but the smiles on the young fellas faces was priceless post match !
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Post by inf3rno on Sept 3, 2011 20:22:08 GMT 10
Before you sprout off about the incident and the hear say from your guys Lando you might want to get the situation straight first.
No matter what level of baseball I have been involved in or played in over the years for someone to NOT slide on a steal attempt to 2nd base is nothing but a bone head play!
The throw was a little down the line but if you were there you would understand why as the wind was howling in from Left field all day, but this is still no excuse for what he did. This only makes the situation worse as he was out by even further! I just hope that these sort of actions by senior members of this team does not rub off on some of the great junior players you have in the team.
On a side note it was great to have Stacey come out a see if Nick was ok, I understand that they played together in state teams.
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Post by hightower on Sept 3, 2011 20:57:22 GMT 10
Inferno, tell me where in the rule book it says you must slide? Who gives a es hayh one tee where the wind is coming from! And one last thing. Why the hell should he turn around to see if he's ok? You cross that white line it's game on, you know the risks and you play to win. Check on the guy after the game if you feel like it. Also age has nothing to do with it. He's playing seniors, he gets treated like a senior.
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Post by slowmotion on Sept 3, 2011 21:00:03 GMT 10
High tower. That's why nobody respects you on the field. Because your a muppet.
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Post by hightower on Sept 3, 2011 21:31:14 GMT 10
Yep slowmotion, that's how you earn respect... by hurling crap like that from behind an alias. Such a hero.
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Post by ayresy on Sept 3, 2011 22:13:03 GMT 10
So lando, your saying that if I don't slide on a steal attempt and take out one of your middle infielders your not gonna be pissed?? Mate let's be honest, if your gonna play the game properly and actually respect it then stuff like that should never happen, doesn't matter weather it's A1 or C Res if nuts like that happens understand your team/teammate is gonna cop flack and probably a ball in the middle of the back next AB. I wasn't there so I don't know what happened exactly but from the sounds of things you need to get off your high horse and understand the game....
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Post by slowmotion on Sept 3, 2011 22:22:49 GMT 10
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Post by oldburger19 on Sept 3, 2011 22:38:44 GMT 10
WOW! And i though a lazy 28-16 A grade semi final would be a talking point! Even scoring 13 or something runs in the top of the last was a bit whack? Apparently im wrong! BEEP BEEP!
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