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Post by farnt on Aug 26, 2011 18:48:33 GMT 10
Wow...quashed by two reliable sources in two hours - that's got to be a forum record! Great rumor though.
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Post by p26 on Aug 26, 2011 19:04:29 GMT 10
p26, I'm sure the Melbourne 2s will be happy to have a new 1b! Didn't I hit two doubles off you last time you pitched against me?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2011 19:30:50 GMT 10
p26, I'm sure the Melbourne 2s will be happy to have a new 1b! Didn't I hit two doubles off you last time you pitched against me? Haha with the outfield work done in that game, you're going to claim those?
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Post by p26 on Aug 26, 2011 20:26:45 GMT 10
ok, one and a half doubles then. haha.
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Post by stuartcapel on Aug 27, 2011 9:05:02 GMT 10
As one of the players mentioned by slowmotion (ie going to melbourne) I can bust the myth. No mcc membership discussed, let alone offered or accepted. I've been a member for ten years anyway (thanks dad for getting me on the list at birth). I get the same deal I got at sandy the last two years. If I buy my uniform and pay my fees, then they'll let me play the games i'm selected and available for and an opportunity to play div 1. I remember when you came over Big Time. No question about the fees as you were very much financial, but from memory the club did pay for your uniform top and cap.
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Post by p26 on Aug 27, 2011 17:50:34 GMT 10
I got back from Vegas a couple weeks ago stu, so my long and short term memories are both a little fried. Maybe they did, maybe that was the other bloke that came over at the time. Not 100% sure either way.
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Post by stuartcapel on Aug 27, 2011 18:26:34 GMT 10
Vegas will do that to you. At least you survived!! ;-)
At least you didn't get married by an Elvis lookalike.
You didn't, did you?
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Post by p26 on Aug 27, 2011 18:39:41 GMT 10
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Post by stuartcapel on Aug 27, 2011 19:36:07 GMT 10
Married TO an Elvis lookalike?
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Post by barb05 on Aug 28, 2011 10:48:20 GMT 10
TaG, the "juniors" that now play in the men's senior 9 (Mitchellhill x 2, Hondo x 2, Wiggins, Field & Gourlay, Andy Mann (14), were the product of Melbourne's junior pgm (no hook) and in most cases these kids were there when they were 5 & 6 yrs of age. And yes, when a junior comes along at a very young age they are put up for MCC memebership, but don't receive it until they turn 15. As for "new" seniors, this is up to the committee to determine. Funny, I was sure Wiggins was a Malvern junior. In fact, why don't you go take a look at your junior program and find out how many juniors there came from Malvern. Not whingeing, just saying don't come on here and claim something you can't really back up.
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Post by wyatt33 on Aug 28, 2011 11:27:23 GMT 10
My much better half has played at Melbourne for ten years, and they don't give her the full membership. It's a playing membership, and it still costs about $500 a year, and it doesn't give you too many rights. Didn't look into it too far as most of the mcc snobs don't particularly like the likes of me and my kind(nick lane excluded, although......)
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Post by behindthedish on Aug 28, 2011 15:58:58 GMT 10
Barb, get your facts right. Wiggins came over from Upwey at the age of 12 and has been there since. Andy Mann came over from Blackburn at the age of 14. Mitchelhill x 2 and Hondo x 2 were at Melbourne from the age of 5/6.
So who from the current crop of the Senior 9 came from Malvern?
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Post by larry42 on Aug 29, 2011 13:28:30 GMT 10
Barb, get your facts right. Wiggins came over from Upwey at the age of 12 and has been there since. Andy Mann came over from Blackburn at the age of 14. Mitchelhill x 2 and Hondo x 2 were at Melbourne from the age of 5/6. So who from the current crop of the Senior 9 came from Malvern? Was Wiggins Upwey or Wavo junior?
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Post by wyatt33 on Aug 29, 2011 14:47:10 GMT 10
Stones and glass houses barb! You guys(malvern) have helped yourselves to plenty of other clubs juniors over the years. Think maybe you should just be a little careful when you have a crack next time.
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Post by tcs on Aug 29, 2011 20:53:55 GMT 10
I hear the door the Moorabbin coach walked into was made from solid Wood
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Post by barb05 on Aug 29, 2011 21:05:23 GMT 10
Maybe it's a different Wiggins, we had 2 at Malvern. Older brother James was a handy young pitcher, lots of promise but left to become a pilot (I think) about the same time the younger brother (also a pitcher... Campbell from memory) went over to Melbourne. Maybe it was a different Melbourne. Kid seems to have turned into a pretty good baseballer - I reckon it's the same guy. Seem to have struck a raw nerve here. You'd be right saying that some of the previous Malvern people always had an eye out around the traps. But like all clubs Malvern work hard to recruit new kids and retain all juniors and help develop a stock of young players for years to come. Current 9 - who the hell has a current 9 any more? Or last years at least. Rohrlach was Sunshine and Doncaster I think, but hadn't played for a number of years before joining Malvern - no clearance was required. Ashton - Malvern Godfrey - Malvern Banfield - Malvern Wall - Malvern Johnston - Malvern Evans - Essendon Pole - Came over from UK, first time in Melbourne Hudson - Marrying my sister inlaw, down from NSW Woolger - Oakleigh Originally but has been at Malvern for quite a while now Dymott - juniors at Mulgrave but has been Malvern since early 90s Myself - 13yrs at UFGT but Malvern for the last 12 Any number of clubs doing the rounds can claim a similar history. If I did throw a stone in a glass house, it'd probably whistle back over my head like most things I throw. Happy to try to answer most questions you might have... I'm also happy to admit when I am wrong. Rumour has it of course...
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Post by behindthedish on Aug 29, 2011 22:08:14 GMT 10
For the record Barb, I was the one who signed the paperwork for young Campbell Wiggins when he came across from Upwey to Melbourne in 2004 as a 12 year old, so I know. And yes, he has turned into a handy player, under the guidance of old man Hondo over the last 7 years. And I think you will find the current 9 at Melbourne (last year), will be the same this year with one or two additions.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2011 22:43:11 GMT 10
For the record Barb, I was the one who signed the paperwork for young Campbell Wiggins when he came across from Upwey to Melbourne in 2004 as a 12 year old, so I know. And yes, he has turned into a handy player, under the guidance of old man Hondo over the last 7 years. And I think you will find the current 9 at Melbourne (last year), will be the same this year with one or two additions. BTD, are you not old man Hondo?!? And 1 or 2 additions? I've heard Blackmore, Tim Williams, Shiels & Thorpe? Probably more? That's what I've heard off the grapevine anyway...
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Post by uptech on Aug 29, 2011 23:33:54 GMT 10
Lando, i wouldn't be surprised if you 're correct in your assumption of that identity, previously i believe, there was a nickname of "The Poacher" that used to circulate around juniors at a neighboring club. So with all the plethora of supposed mid 90's chuckers at the D,s where do you think a young Thorke will get a go ? when the Donkeys would probably looking for him to at least throw in mid weeks + possibly more !! Add in Shiels and i'm sure he will be replacing Sticks in the starters. --- not --- with the same situation at the Donkeys facing him. This'll open up the old can of worms, IMO donkeys should not let them go, ok Shiels was originally from Berwick but both have blossomed under the umbrella of coaches at the Donkeys ( mainly to the efforts of a Mr. L.Ellis) who have worked hard and retained over the last 20 years a strong junior base to find other less hard working clubs try to step in just to try and bolster their numbers. Sure it can buy you premierships but in the long run it will eventually destabilize that club! Recent history
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Post by behindthedish on Aug 30, 2011 7:23:47 GMT 10
Lando, no I was just someone who assisted him at Melbourne in the early 90's and until recently with the junior pgms and kids mentioned above. I just potter around the club now. Only Blackmore has been signed of the names you mentioned above, first I have heard of the others.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2011 7:56:06 GMT 10
Timmy Williams clearance has been mentioned on the forum a fair bit the last week, not sure how you missed it.
And as for the kids, I heard it recently, can't even remember who told me (hence mentioning it in the Rumour Mill).
But does that really make you as homegrown as first suggested?
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Post by behindthedish on Aug 30, 2011 8:20:42 GMT 10
Depends who plays and performs in the 1s this year. I would say that Mitchelhill x 2, Hondo x 2, young Wiggins and Tristan Field, Andy Mann will all be regulars this year, so that's a fair chunk out of the starting 9.
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Post by barb05 on Aug 30, 2011 8:26:17 GMT 10
Lando, no I was just someone who assisted him at Melbourne in the early 90's and until recently with the junior pgms and kids mentioned above. I just potter around the club now. Only Blackmore has been signed of the names you mentioned above, first I have heard of the others. The least you can do is be honest about who you are. The Forum is a bit small to hide identities. I might just give you a nickname and start calling you Hendo... It's a play on words... a bit like Hondo but more like Henderson, as a friend reminded me, he too liked to talk about himself in the 3rd person. Thanks for the insight Hendo. Luckily this is the rumour mill so you can be forgiven for not talking in facts. The shame of it is that you're probably looking at the list of Malvern players above and wondering how you missed these on the way through.
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Post by johne on Aug 30, 2011 9:02:00 GMT 10
Lando, no I was just someone who assisted him at Melbourne in the early 90's and until recently with the junior pgms and kids mentioned above. I just potter around the club now. Only Blackmore has been signed of the names you mentioned above, first I have heard of the others. ... It's a play on words... a bit like Hondo but more like Henderson, as a friend reminded me, he too liked to talk about himself in the 3rd person. ..... Ricky was a character but when your one of the best players of all time its probably ok to talk about yourself in such a manner. This is from his wikipedia page. Henderson was known for being an illeist, referring to himself in the third person. One unconfirmed story reports seeing him standing naked in front of a mirror before a game, practicing his swing, and declaring, "Rickey's the best! Rickey's the best!" According to Verducci, during one off-season, Henderson called Padres general manager Kevin Towers and left this message: "Kevin, this is Rickey. Calling on behalf of Rickey. Rickey wants to play baseball." However, Henderson denied that this happened in a February 26, 2009 interview on Mike and Mike in the Morning. In 2003, he discussed his unusual phraseology, saying, "People are always saying, 'Rickey says Rickey.' But it's been blown way out of proportion. I say it when I don't do what I need to be doing. I use it to remind myself, like, `Rickey, what you doing, you stupid....' I'm just scolding myself." Henderson did use the first person pronoun on occasion, such as when he defended his position during a contract dispute: "All I'm asking for is what I want.
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Post by p26 on Aug 30, 2011 11:41:20 GMT 10
Two words...."Bo Knows"
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Post by stockley on Aug 30, 2011 15:02:44 GMT 10
For the record Barb, I was the one who signed the paperwork for young Campbell Wiggins when he came across from Upwey to Melbourne in 2004 as a 12 year old, so I know. And yes, he has turned into a handy player, under the guidance of old man Hondo over the last 7 years. And I think you will find the current 9 at Melbourne (last year), will be the same this year with one or two additions. BTD, are you not old man Hondo?!? And 1 or 2 additions? I've heard Blackmore, Tim Williams, Shiels & Thorpe? Probably more? That's what I've heard off the grapevine anyway... Hey Lando... you forgot Mitch Ellis, Luke Brazier, and the rest of the Doncaster juniors that have been "poached" by Melbourne. By all reports, Melbourne should have a strong fifths, sixth's and sevenths with all the pickup's they've got!
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Post by farnt on Aug 30, 2011 17:29:22 GMT 10
Tell me when will you be mine Tell me Hondo, Hondo, Hondo We can share a love divine Please don´t make me wait again
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Post by stuartcapel on Sept 29, 2011 8:41:35 GMT 10
Heard last night that the 'International All-Star' team the Aces are playing in Geelong will be largely made up of imports in the BV league this season.
Nothing wrong with that, however word reaches me that if a team does not release their import to play in these matches that they may face penalties (though no word if that will be financial or points related).
Fingers crossed for no injuries to any player that any club in the competition has invested in bringing to their club from overseas.
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Post by stockley on Sept 29, 2011 10:48:40 GMT 10
Heard last night that the 'International All-Star' team the Aces are playing in Geelong will be largely made up of imports in the BV league this season. Nothing wrong with that, however word reaches me that if a team does not release their import to play in these matches that they may face penalties (though no word if that will be financial or points related). Fingers crossed for no injuries to any player that any club in the competition has invested in bringing to their club from overseas. What right would the Melbourne Aces have to insist that clubs who bring out imports, at their own expense no less, release the imports to play for or against the Aces? If that was the case, and BV sanctioned it, then they should be absolutely ashamed, and before considering either financial or points related penalties, should consider the repercussions of such. As it stands, I'm under the assumption that the game is during the course of the BVSL season anyway, and imports likely required to play?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2011 11:07:39 GMT 10
Heard last night that the 'International All-Star' team the Aces are playing in Geelong will be largely made up of imports in the BV league this season. Nothing wrong with that, however word reaches me that if a team does not release their import to play in these matches that they may face penalties (though no word if that will be financial or points related). Fingers crossed for no injuries to any player that any club in the competition has invested in bringing to their club from overseas. In understanding that this may be a Rumour only SC all I can say is is this a way that the Aces crew can check out the potential available talent to it during the course of the season ? Either way this tension between Clubs/Imports and the Aces may well remain a really tricky/thorny issue again this year as there are so many conflicting interests herein including the Imports actually wanting to play with the Aces (to the detriment of thier sponsor) to potentially to showcase their talent.
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