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Post by 6for8 on Aug 1, 2008 16:01:04 GMT 10
Ok lads, here is the place we can discuss all our predictions for the upcoming season.
My Prediction 1. Blackburn - solid everywhere. well rounded. 2. Waverley - unbelievable pitching. play station to station ball. 3. Essendon - good, very good... times running out though, 4. Malvern - just know how to win. play for each other. 5. Geelong - need to fire from the start. 6. Doncaster - can Blewjas carry the Dragons again? 7. Bonbeach - who knows? not the club, thats for sure. 8. Newport - dont have the depth. 9. Sunshine - player losses will hurt them. 10. Sandringham - No Saunders, no Sandy.
Div 2
1. Cheltenham - good coaching, will do enough down the stretch. 2. Upwey FTG - will play Cheltenham in final, no doubt. 3. Melbourne - be a while until they get back in Div 1. 4. Fitzroy - very underrated hitters. need an Ace. 5. Moorabbin - have some good players... need a few more. 6. Mulgrave - headin' south. 7. Ormond - not recruiting the right players to go anywhere. 8. Werribee - relegate them already
Div 3
Dont care really...
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Post by johne on Aug 1, 2008 16:14:39 GMT 10
^^^ agree with most of what you say. Esp about the bombers.
Here is my list I posted in rumours but its more suited for here.
Ill leave my team out of it, this is my predicted ladder order come finals time (not including bombers).
Blackburn, Cant go past them scoring 200+ runs last year.
Doncaster, Couple of new bats will sure up the line up.
Waverly, Pinching players everywhere, should help
Malvern, crafty vets always in contention.
Geelong, return of pro kids for whole year makes them much stronger.
Bonbeach, Rutgers is going there right? Dark horse of the group.
Newport, Always tough have the best home ground advantage in the league. Losing mckennar will hurt.
Sunshine, stokes is a big out from the line up, but matty and gregg always hold them together good.
Sandringham, dont know much about them.
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Post by slider on Aug 1, 2008 16:29:40 GMT 10
6for, not very nice thing to say you dont care about Div 3...it is still baseball
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Post by 6for8 on Aug 1, 2008 16:42:48 GMT 10
sorry slider,
but i truely dont. as long as Springvale stay in Div 3, its a waste of time... and before you raise it, yes i am aware williamstown won it last year, but as long as you have one team so far ahead of the rest and another that finishs with a record of 0 Wins 21 Losses in the same league... i'll continue to consider it a farce.
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Post by beacon on Aug 1, 2008 16:59:59 GMT 10
6for,
I guess you are just lucky that you must be an above average ballplayer. As I said on one of the other posts, some of the players in Div 3 ( and yes it is a farce that S'vale are in Div 3, and continue to tell the VBA they dont want to go up ) would I think walk into some Div 1 clubs and all Div 2 clubs..It is refreshing to see that they have allegences to there club they probably played at as a junior..As opposed to a lot of other players names that are being thrown around........
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Post by 6for8 on Aug 1, 2008 19:01:37 GMT 10
lets start a forum and all talk about a league that has no player movement and the same outcome each year... that'll be interesting....
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Post by johne on Aug 1, 2008 22:44:05 GMT 10
6for, I guess you are just lucky that you must be an above average ballplayer. As I said on one of the other posts, some of the players in Div 3 ( and yes it is a farce that S'vale are in Div 3, and continue to tell the VBA they dont want to go up ) would I think walk into some Div 1 clubs and all Div 2 clubs..It is refreshing to see that they have allegences to there club they probably played at as a junior..As opposed to a lot of other players names that are being thrown around........ Who are these players in Div 3? I know springy have the vets like Bump and Hogs, and Williamstown have Tanner from the bad news bears ( aka my old mate Jay Willis). But who are these other studs that would walk in to teams in div 1?
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Post by Just me on Aug 1, 2008 23:18:21 GMT 10
Taking the conversation back to Div 1... I think this year will be extremely close.
Waverley having a dissapointing year last year, have made changes in a bid to bring back their spark.
Blackburn look good on paper, but to many big bats and stars in a team can also work against you.
Essendon will be up their again, but you have to wounder if they reach a happy zone and dont push to go that extra step.
Doncaster rely on the same blokes and arent deep enough to cover anyone that is out of form.
Geelong, dont ride them off, they have a number of players back from overseas, along with rumors of a number of key players coming into the lineup. They also have a number of kids coming back from overseas. Add a kid or two from the 2's that have dominated for the past few years and they look like a side that will challenge any team on their day.
Malvern, will be competitive
Bonbeach, well from what i have read, they are playing games amongst eachother. If their team spirit is like 2 years ago, the depth isnt there but they will win a game or two based.
Newport, started off well last year. I would think they will be in the middle again somewhere, I think the fumes down their and the d**n wind win them a game or two.
Sunshine and Sandy, sorry to say but they will be fighting to save religation.
I think 1 through to 6 will have less than a handful of games between them.
Blackburn Essendon Waverley Geelong Malvern Doncaster Newport B'Beach Sunshine Sandy
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Post by russellf on Aug 2, 2008 13:14:14 GMT 10
Here's my prediction for Div one this year:
1. Blackburn - good left handed bats and no real dominate LHP in the league since Josh Spence (Maybe Hendricks or Barker) 2. Essendon - Good pitching (as always)... will depend mainly on how they swing the bats. Their hitters do have the quality to do it 3. Waverly - down years from a few key players hurt them but they will bounce back. especially if they pick up a few more pieces 4. Malvern - veteran ball club. they know how to win. Age may catch up to them though. It has to some time. 5. Doncaster - Rely heavily on Blejwas. Can his arm take another season like last one? Solid Lineup. 6. Geelong - a few key additions will make this ball club. though their defense is shaky with a lot of youth up the middle 7. Newport - still a young ball club. Need to find offense to replace a wearying Land and the absence of Mckenner 8. Bonbeach - bit of a wild card. interesting to see how their new coach's philosophies fit in 9. Sunshine - Stokes is a massive out. Wiltshire and Kent to do it again if they are going to stay up. 10. Sandringham - shouldn't have bothered going up. Harsh but it is reality.
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Post by johne on Aug 5, 2008 20:30:37 GMT 10
I also predict that the VBA aka BASEBALL VICTORIA will release the fixture at 9.30pm on the saturday night before the first game.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2008 20:37:22 GMT 10
Whaaaaat? Earlier than usual?
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Post by homerun on Aug 19, 2008 12:51:41 GMT 10
Draft Fixture sent to Clubs today from Baseball Victoria. The only reason that the fixture in any grade is delayed is because Clubs keep making changes. So well done BV
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Post by johne on Aug 19, 2008 13:33:00 GMT 10
Draft Fixture sent to Clubs today from Baseball Victoria. The only reason that the fixture in any grade is delayed is because Clubs keep making changes. So well done BV what changes in Division 1?
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Post by southside on Aug 28, 2008 16:44:11 GMT 10
1. Essendon - most depth. Get the finals monkey off their back. 2. Blackburn - will finish on top, but it's Essendon's year. 3. Malvern - know how to win the close ones, always in the contest. 4. Waverley - will go hard early, but drop a few games. Fall away as their guns go o/s. 5. Geelong - Extra hitting will give the line-up the support they SHOULD have had last year. Will finish very strong. 6. Blewjas - Doncaster won't give him enough support this year. Suprised everyone last year but will be dealt with a lot more seriously in every game this year. 7. Newport - rebuilding. Might finish higher, but are prob two key players short. 8. Bonbeach - play well when winning, without sounding nasty they don't know how to bounce back from losses. 9. Sunshine - No runs, can't win. 10. Sandringham - firm but fair.
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Post by homer29 on Sept 2, 2008 21:03:28 GMT 10
Enjoy it down in divvy 2 Russell!
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Post by dc on Sept 3, 2008 10:30:32 GMT 10
Come on Homer... lets be honest... you guys will be lucky to win a game up there...
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Post by thewholetruth on Sept 3, 2008 10:44:19 GMT 10
last time they won 2. not the ones, the whole club.
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Post by homer29 on Sept 3, 2008 11:17:14 GMT 10
last time they won 2. not the ones, the whole club. Enough to stay up is the aim. An extra arm from the other side will certainly help us this year and a much better club coach
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Post by p26 on Sept 3, 2008 11:23:25 GMT 10
A much better club coach? Are you really saying you don't think Sanders cut the mustard? Wow.
The guy takes you to div 1 twice and two grand finals in three years and you're saying you've got a "much better club coach". Why does that sound familiar? haha.
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Post by homer29 on Sept 3, 2008 11:29:16 GMT 10
Sanders was outstanding in his role and a great bloke.
The new guy has ten years of college at coaching, was a national league player and lives to teach baseball which is where he has it over Sanders.
The fact he is a pitcher as well helps too.
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Post by southside on Sept 3, 2008 11:47:52 GMT 10
Hi Homer, long time reader first time heckler...
It's long been understood that there are 5 key tools for baseball. Hitting for average Hitting for power Strong throwing arm Skillful base runner Strong defence
I don't want to get too Sesame Street with you, but the Royals may be a little behind in some of these areas.
Good examples of guys who show these qualities (in our league) are; Boothy RJ Andy Russell Rutgers Wiechard ... seeing a Claxtony type trend here?
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Post by southside on Sept 3, 2008 11:49:56 GMT 10
For the record, I don't consider Harmon "in our league". I'm sure you get my meaning.
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Post by dc on Sept 3, 2008 12:32:22 GMT 10
What and sanders wasn't a pitcher? WOW. Danny M will be great but Sanders took you up with his arm one year and then took you up with just his coaching the next... I think you'll struggle to find a better pitcher AND coach anywhere in the league.... you're kidding yourself.
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Post by johne on Sept 3, 2008 12:36:27 GMT 10
Hi Homer, long time reader first time heckler... It's long been understood that there are 5 key tools for baseball. Hitting for average Hitting for power Strong throwing arm Skillful base runner Strong defence I don't want to get too Sesame Street with you, but the Royals may be a little behind in some of these areas. Good examples of guys who show these qualities (in our league) are; Boothy RJ Andy Russell Rutgers Wiechard ... seeing a Claxtony type trend here? Yo Riki J your a 5 tool guy now. Let me act as your agent, Ill only take 50% (both money and groupies)
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Post by p26 on Sept 3, 2008 14:31:24 GMT 10
What and sanders wasn't a pitcher? WOW. Danny M will be great but Sanders took you up with his arm one year and then took you up with just his coaching the next... I think you'll struggle to find a better pitcher AND coach anywhere in the league.... you're kidding yourself. dc, that was exactly what I meant to say in my post but you put it much better. Nailed it.
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Post by russellf on Sept 3, 2008 14:31:46 GMT 10
Enjoy it down in divvy 2 Russell! who are you? if you come from Sandringham you shouldn't be talking like that... whe the Rustlers would woop your ass if given the chance... I would back my boys in against your mob any day of the week... and the sad thing is as you get older and fatter we get bigger and stronger... come back and talk smack when you have a ground with a permanent home run fence.... haha
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Post by russellf on Sept 3, 2008 14:36:19 GMT 10
last time they won 2. not the ones, the whole club. Enough to stay up is the aim. An extra arm from the other side will certainly help us this year and a much better club coach you wont get anywhere near enough wins... and even if you do its because you had to buy in players... all well and good to have a super coach but the problem is there is no one in Sandy to teach... (Maybe he could teach you throw properly)
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Post by southside on Sept 3, 2008 14:56:34 GMT 10
Hi Homer, long time reader first time heckler... It's long been understood that there are 5 key tools for baseball. Hitting for average Hitting for power Strong throwing arm Skillful base runner Strong defence I don't want to get too Sesame Street with you, but the Royals may be a little behind in some of these areas. Good examples of guys who show these qualities (in our league) are; Boothy RJ Andy Russell Rutgers Wiechard ... seeing a Claxtony type trend here? Yo Riki J your a 5 tool guy now. Let me act as your agent, Ill only take 50% (both money and groupies) Jealous Johne? I only said "show these qualities" in our league. Had to put a few examples in there for the Div2 kiddies. Shall we draw up a list of requirements that define "premium" players in Div1 and then categorise players? Sure I didn't mention guys like Sticks and Berg (should have) and the list could go on. Put your propeller cap on (take your Ess. one off) and average the five tools across our leagues premium players, how many guys show above avg in 4 or more tools? Probably find only about 12-15 tops!! Go figure why these guys are in or around Claxton each year. For all the guys in Div2 or 3 that may have heard of this fantastic Div1 thing, you can play too!! Take the best 5 players in your league as the yardstick... how do they stack up to these 5 tools. Feels like we're playing VBA moneyball.
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Post by jubba on Sept 3, 2008 15:08:22 GMT 10
Southside, Just wondering if you have seen Johne play. The guys hits for power as good as anyone, lead Essendon's average last year, has a hose when he needs too, lead Essendon's SB and won't run out of sight but is quite quick for a big bloke.
And he was only reving up RJ whom he played with
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Post by dc on Sept 3, 2008 15:14:54 GMT 10
Ease up ferg... Not saying chelt wouldn't beat sandy but geez, it's not like you're that different when you look at the results... both up and down. And the lineup you're projecting AINT that strong....
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