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Post by Chardy on Jan 21, 2009 8:48:43 GMT 10
no idea what you are talking about stmf?? I think Bright Balls is your man for that sort of thing!!
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Post by Royda45 on Jan 21, 2009 10:16:24 GMT 10
I'll pay the 10 bucks to go to Altona Friday night to see a game of ball....... I really don't care
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Post by The Joker on Jan 21, 2009 10:28:09 GMT 10
Altona is one thing (although $10 seems a bit steep), Waverley is a different beast altogether.
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Post by barb05 on Jan 21, 2009 11:46:54 GMT 10
If I knew that the $10 was going to the improvement of our league, I wouldn't mind so much. How did Waverley get the game anyway, I know heaps of other clubs around Malv.... <ahem> Victoria who would have put their hands up to host a game if we knew there was one on offer. Seems someone forgot to send that memo out.
What's that central ground near Kooyong and the Freeway with the train station nearby called again? The one with the nice dugouts and realistic HR fence... why didn't they ask that club, I'm sure they'd have said yes... after all, there was a suggestion that the new ABL team play home games there. Should this be in the rumour mill?
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Post by rebelwithoutaclue on Jan 21, 2009 11:58:10 GMT 10
Plenty of good grounds out there...
Prestons one at La Trobe springs to mind... Not in the East but probably one of the best hills for viewing (unless you want seats and shade lol), plenty of parking, real dugouts/HR fence, etc
Would be good for a Div 3 club to have some exposure to the public too, maybe attract some new players....
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Post by mg33 on Jan 21, 2009 12:04:51 GMT 10
Doesn't really matter where its played so long as there are bums on seats
How many went to Geelong?
Reckon there will be more punters at Sat game than Friday at Altona
If Sat works it may be an indication that rotating the venues is worth a thought.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2009 12:22:06 GMT 10
ABF figures show 1031 at Geelong on the Thursday, 893 on Friday and 1567 on Saturday. This would be paying numbers and would not include quite a large contingent who stayed on from the Under 16 champs during the day. A cold Friday night accounts for that night's numbers being down. It's worth noting, though, that while Saturday was a good-sized crowd, the consensus was that more were there for the first game.
Attendances this weekend will be interesting. With warm weather you'd have to expect a massive crowd at Waverley.
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Post by lonewolf75 on Jan 21, 2009 12:32:07 GMT 10
and for that reason surely there are better viewing grounds around KC??
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2009 12:56:01 GMT 10
Yep.
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Post by Ace on Jan 21, 2009 13:11:03 GMT 10
I can't understand why Waverley would be chosen for two reasons.
1) They want to charge money...the place is completely open, save for a little creek.
2) It isn't the best viewing ground - if they are hoping for a big crowd, it's clearly the wrong choice.
Mind you bringing a game to the south eastern suburbs is a neat idea...
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Post by The Joker on Jan 21, 2009 13:13:05 GMT 10
Interesting KC - if there are gunna be 1000 people at Waverley, I'm not sure I will go. Seeing the back of a heap of baseball supporters' heads is not my idea of a great day.
I notice also that the forecast for Sat is heavy rain - do we get a $10 refund if the game gets washed out?
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Post by mg33 on Jan 21, 2009 13:28:54 GMT 10
Reckon a 1000 punters at any local club is going to bring similar problems for one reason or another. Waverley is a d**n site closer than Geelong, Mildura and to many more appealling than Altona.
Suggest - If you don,t want to look at the back of other Punters heads - bring an Esky - solves 2 problems - vision and rehydration - cheers hic
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Post by The Joker on Jan 21, 2009 13:36:46 GMT 10
I like your thinking ;-)
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Post by barb05 on Jan 21, 2009 13:52:13 GMT 10
I don't think $10 is Waverley's idea, I'm sure they'll have a great day financially off the bar and canteen and it's a great opportunity for them as a club. I'm tipping a crowd of well more than 1000 - there'll be close to that in just Waverley past and present members.
If nothing else, this will showcase the need for a purpose built stadium in the east.
Side note; should we book a dinner table for 300 at the Mount Spew for Parmas after the game?
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Post by stmf on Jan 21, 2009 14:56:35 GMT 10
I think Wavo will work. I think Malvern is ok, but the mound is a torn labrum waiting to happen, and the bullpen is disgusting! The ground would be good if grass was cut short, and the basepaths rolled. It was a little thick and slow last i was there. I would have thought Cheltenham was a good venue. Takes a serious whack to leave the yard, mound is kept up well, and plenty of room down and around the fence. Canteen is above average and is very close for me.... super! Only problem is you cant fix the mine field hanging out just infront or third, short, second and first...lol. Truth is alot of fields would work. Guess Wavo was just lucky! Oi Chardy, don't sell yourself short! Brighty is on lock down! New ball and chain i think. You have had plenty of solid chicks hanging off ya that i've seen! Maybe everyone that can should just bring something! If you have a piece already, bring her three friends for everyone else! Who can we talk to about getting some cheerleaders for the future? Maybe Clarko can get the missus to reunite the red diamonds!!! lol
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Post by Ace on Jan 21, 2009 16:30:38 GMT 10
You wouldn't want the gale blowing in at Chelt though.
Although it does makes games interesting, it won't hold as much appeal to those outside the baseball community. Mind you, how many outsiders could we expect?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2009 16:54:20 GMT 10
"If nothing else, this will showcase the need for a purpose built stadium in the east."
I think barb has hit the nail on the head, here. Eastern suburbs are one of the huge growth areas for baseball. If the game is supported as well as some are predicting, then the message becomes very clear with a new national league on the horizon somewhere.
Forecast is a few early showers and windy. Could be a picnic if it's blowing out.
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Post by Diesel on Jan 21, 2009 17:03:35 GMT 10
I'm sure Waverley will put on the best show possible, being a Waverley person I have put up my hand to help out on the day, I will be working on Friday Night and again on Saturday from 6am to get things ready for the big day. And as KC mentioned "This will showcase the need for a purpose built stadium in the East"
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Post by duke on Jan 21, 2009 20:51:59 GMT 10
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Post by The Joker on Jan 22, 2009 6:50:04 GMT 10
Don't get me wrong - I know that Waverley as a club will put on a great show on the day, and the ground will be in good nick. I'm just struggling to work out where the hell we will fit the estimated 2000 strong crowd, and how the hell they get to see the action and get any value for their money?
Maybe BV are going to hire one of those temporary grandstands for the weekend? Now THAT would be a great use of our entrance money.
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Post by crogers20 on Jan 22, 2009 7:51:53 GMT 10
I'm just struggling to work out where the hell we will fit the estimated 2000 strong crowd, and how the hell they get to see the action and get any value for their money? Suck it up, pay the entry fee and enjoy the atmosphere. Where else can you get over three hours of entertainment in the great outdoors for $10? Add in the chance to catch up with dozens of mates that you usually only get to see twice a year on the field - priceless. ;D
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Post by pakkyp on Jan 22, 2009 8:03:44 GMT 10
Maybe BV are going to hire one of those temporary grandstands for the weekend? Now THAT would be a great use of our entrance money. I thought it was the ABF organising and collecting the entrance money, not BV? FWIW... people have mentioned showcasing a need for a purpose-built stadium in the SE/E. The last talk I heard involved a couple of 'satellite' grounds around the place, not just one you-beaut stadium, but fixing up a number of potential club diamonds.
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Post by The Joker on Jan 22, 2009 8:08:57 GMT 10
Where else can you get over three hours of entertainment in the great outdoors for $10? I could go to Fitzroy to watch them play Cheltenham. Entry cost is free, 2 beers and a hot dog with cheese is $8 - I come out $2 ahead and actually get to see some gameplay. ...and not all the guys we play against each week are mates, some are thingys that I don't really want to see more than twice a year (no offense guys)! :-)
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Post by larry42 on Jan 22, 2009 8:30:47 GMT 10
Wonder what the expectation is from the ABF about the crowd that will be attending this weekend's semi finals in Melbourne...die hard baseball people or baseball virgins?
Great value for a baseball family at $10 per adult and $5 per child. That would mean to go to Games 1 & 2 it will set me back $60 just to get in, before the kids rip in to the over priced hot dogs and luke warm chips (altona). Maybe looking at over $100 for the two games. If they say kids wearing a club baseball uniform get in free, why not let them get in free anyway!! Maybe the ABF could have organised a series ticket.
As much as i'd like to see the Aces win it in 2, will be hysterical to see the crowd numbers at Altona on Sunday afternoon for the decider. Ridiculous that Game 3 may be played in front of no one.
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Post by Chardy on Jan 22, 2009 8:31:55 GMT 10
Temporary grandstands down either line at Waverley?? I hope their public liability insurance is up to date!!!
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Post by The Joker on Jan 22, 2009 8:34:13 GMT 10
I hope their public liability insurance is up to date!!! I hope it is anyway - with the expected crowd numbers, if a ball gets pulled foul, speactators won't have room to move out of the way anyway. Maybe all spectatots should wear earless helmets? ;D
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Post by barb05 on Jan 22, 2009 9:08:56 GMT 10
Public liability insurance won't help here. If you're at the game to spectate then the insurance company will argue that as you're there to specifically watch the sport, you know the risks. Seems that surrounding yourself in empty beer cans is the best defense. Some random local getting ping-ponged off his bike on the other hand... that's what PLI is for, no doubt much to the enjoyment of the 2000 odd that'll be in attendance. Side note... sorry STMF, we can't all have MLB pens, mounds, basepaths and labrums. But we do lead the league in dog delays, something the MLB definitely need more of.
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Post by The Joker on Jan 22, 2009 9:23:56 GMT 10
Some random local getting ping-ponged off his bike on the other hand... You're right Barb - I'd pay $10 to see that! ;D I'd pay more to see a Malvern thingyer spaniel cop one up the date though.
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Post by thewholetruth on Jan 22, 2009 9:27:31 GMT 10
i wonder if the local council know of the plan to charge people to enter a public park?
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Post by pakkyp on Jan 22, 2009 9:46:02 GMT 10
Temporary grandstands down either line at Waverley?? I hope their public liability insurance is up to date!!! So do I... every ABF affiliated player/club should be covered by the same public liability insurance. If it's up to date than it's probably likely that neither is Blackburn's or any other clubs. And they'd want to be the heaviest duty temp grandstands to seat me!
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