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Post by The Joker on Jan 20, 2009 6:49:42 GMT 10
The ticket prices have just been announced on the BV website ( www.baseballvictoria.com.au/?Page=49792). $10 entry into both Altona AND Waverley?  Give with one hand and take with the other *sigh* You would have thought that canteen/bar takings would have been enough at Waverley. Judging by accounts of recent suburban games between eastern suburb powerhouses, a crowd of 200-300 should have been easy enough. I wonder what impact this might have on attendance? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2009 7:08:07 GMT 10
Good point sico.
That has now been changed to specify Altona games while confirmation is sought from the powers that be. It was ten bucks at Geelong, so I don't see why this would change - despite the eminently good argument that we want to get people at the games, not turn them away.
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Post by The Joker on Jan 20, 2009 7:13:18 GMT 10
It would seem that a game at Waverley would have a very good chance of getting extra attendance from non-baseball people walking in off the street (or bike track). Would be difficult to chase these people up for cash...
Now if they charged for parking, that would be another story...
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Post by rebelwithoutaclue on Jan 20, 2009 7:47:45 GMT 10
Sico,
"ENTRY TO ALTONA: $ 10 adults, $ 5 kids and concession. Kids free if wearing club uniform and accompanied by an adult. "
Doesn't mention admission at Waverley, not now anyway...
Can seniors wear full uniform and get free entry? haha
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Post by Chardy on Jan 20, 2009 8:05:32 GMT 10
The game at Waverley should be free - no question about it. The ABF and Baseball Vic need to use this opportunity to promote the game and not demote it further.
I would imagine that if the choose to charge people entry then the council will take half of it anyway - make it free and save yourself the headache.
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Post by nudrun on Jan 20, 2009 9:23:15 GMT 10
im jumping the fence
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Post by The Joker on Jan 20, 2009 9:26:16 GMT 10
I'm coming in on the bike track
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2009 10:04:25 GMT 10
We're coming in from the side street out where the back diamond is !
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2009 10:28:10 GMT 10
It's confirmed by Baseball Victoria that the entry charge will apply at both venues.
The reason given is that the ABF has conducted this year's Claxton as a commercial enterprise to assist it with planning for the new national league. So all costs, revenues, crowds and other factors are to be taken into account.
The games in Mildura were free, but only because the local council came up with a financial incentive to get them up there. All other games have been charged.
And the weekend's games are semi-finals, not demonstration or practice matches.
It'll be interesting to see how effectively the entry fee can be collected. The entry only started being collected at the gate after 6 pm in Geelong (an hour before game time) - the thinking apparently being that early starters would spend money over the bar and on food. If it's going to be something similar at Waverley, the go might be to get there early and make a day of it.
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Post by nudrun on Jan 20, 2009 10:47:35 GMT 10
10 bucks what a classic. good luck trying to police that. if we can get in through the back doors at altona try stop us at an open venue hahahahahahaha.
are they making the players pay as well like at crap ona
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Post by Chardy on Jan 20, 2009 10:50:20 GMT 10
because making money is more important than promoting our game - isnt that why the ABL went broke in the first place???
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Post by pakkyp on Jan 20, 2009 11:19:46 GMT 10
because making money is more important than promoting our game - isnt that why the ABL went broke in the first place??? What promoting of our game? Only people involved in the sport will even know about the semi finals happening this weekend... If the ABF actually made use of the Australian MLB players, it would be easy to generate some interest through media manipulation/promotion. As it is, the only people who will turn up will be the baseball tragics who will pay the $10 entry fee. I was stupid enough to travel to Geelong and pay $25 for my family to get in, I'll be stupid enough to do the same at Waverley. |
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Post by The Joker on Jan 20, 2009 11:20:37 GMT 10
It's kinda ironic that the people likely to turn up are also the ones likely to support whatever initatives occur on the day to raise money.
Ie, raffles, auctions etc
I wonder if anyone has organised any of these?
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Post by pakkyp on Jan 20, 2009 11:36:28 GMT 10
It's kinda ironic that the people likely to turn up are also the ones likely to support whatever initatives occur on the day to raise money. Ie, raffles, auctions etc I wonder if anyone has organised any of these? Interesting thoughts... I'm not sure Waverley would allow someone else to come in and do something like that on the Saturday. Although I'd be happy to organise something if all the profits go back to my club?  |
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Post by mc15 on Jan 20, 2009 11:46:15 GMT 10
Firstly, it's a public park. Try to stop people coming in. Secondly, if I'm paying $10 for a ticket, give me a place to sit rather than stading on milk cratestrying to get a view of the field or under the scoreboard in left. I thought the whole idea of having it at Waverley was to give it a local club vibe. If that's not the case, play it at Altona and they can charge the 73 people that turn up (that's if they haven't gotten freebees) the $10 to watch.
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Post by The Joker on Jan 20, 2009 11:54:02 GMT 10
I was thinking more broadly than that PakkyP - more like what they do at the cricket, selling raffle tickets to contribute back into junior development.
Also was thinking about available opportunites, eg imagine auctioning off access to listen to Phil's pre- or post-game speech?
Maybe even auctioning the opportunity to appear in a pre-game team photo with both competing teams, or your favourite player - stmf for me ;-)
Just had another horrific thought, imagine being the proud parent of one of these guys and dragging the family along to three games of baseball for the weekend? Using PakkyP as an example, it would cost $75 to take two adults and a kid to all three games. I wonder if family get in for free? And if so, who's long-lost brother can I become before then?
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Post by Chardy on Jan 20, 2009 12:02:48 GMT 10
because making money is more important than promoting our game - isnt that why the ABL went broke in the first place??? What promoting of our game? Only people involved in the sport will even know about the semi finals happening this weekend... If the ABF actually made use of the Australian MLB players, it would be easy to generate some interest through media manipulation/promotion. As it is, the only people who will turn up will be the baseball tragics who will pay the $10 entry fee. I was stupid enough to travel to Geelong and pay $25 for my family to get in, I'll be stupid enough to do the same at Waverley. we did the same on Friday night and some of the boys spent more than enough at the bar (I didn't, I was driving) |
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Post by phl on Jan 20, 2009 12:57:24 GMT 10
The Ticket prices are standard from ABF all across Australia. Last Sunday at Brisbane Windsor Field RAMS V SA, Adults $10, U15 $5 and Kids U5 or in Uniform Free. I rocked up to Ticket seller with my son and asked for 2 Kids tickets please... ;D  ;D did not work .. What do you blokes pay to watch an AFL game in Melbourne Stop complaining, pay up and just go watch the game.. At least your Team is in the Finals, quit whingeing.... |
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Post by pakkyp on Jan 20, 2009 13:00:42 GMT 10
I was thinking more broadly than that PakkyP - more like what they do at the cricket, selling raffle tickets to contribute back into junior development. That would be nice to see... and with a little forward planning it would of been great. There is little time left to organise this unfortunately, and my club has the Development Officer out in Pakky for the next couple of days trying to convert the barbarians, so Mr Karlsen probably couldn't organise much, so it would be reliant on others. Going forward I think that is something for a sub-committee of the independant board to work on for next year. |
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Post by pakkyp on Jan 20, 2009 13:12:35 GMT 10
The Ticket prices are standard from ABF all across Australia. What do you blokes pay to watch an AFL game in Melbourne Personally, the AFL would need to pay me money to watch a game of AFL... however I do know that an NRL General Admission ticket in Melbourne was $17 last year. And to be honest, I got a seat with a decent view of the playing field, a big screen to watch replays, cheerleaders to drool over. II'm sure 'll get none of those at Waverley. But I can live without those things... if they try charging more than $5.50 for a can of Jim Beam, there will be hell to pay! Geelong's $5 a can was appreciated. |
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Post by phl on Jan 20, 2009 13:23:20 GMT 10
Maybe Nudrun can do a streak during the 7th Inning stretch for the Ladies ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D XXXX beer was not to expensive at Brisbane Windsor field for the RAMS /SA game but I had one can of Bundy Rum + Coke and got slugged $6 !!!!! I think at Club games we charge $4.50 for same. Outrageous.
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Post by nudrun on Jan 20, 2009 13:46:43 GMT 10
dont tempt me phl im happy to run between 3rd and 1st. not fit enough to make the outfield dash these days.
if they are charging at the car park looks like we have to use the old drive in hide in the boot trick. got 4 blokes in 1 year. 10 bucks to sit 4 deep behind the back net is a bit rich. at least at the afl you get a ripping seat, heaps of beer and food stalls and no ex baseballers telling you how great they are and how they could hit this pitching
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Post by The Joker on Jan 20, 2009 14:11:35 GMT 10
...and my club has the Development Officer out in Pakky for the next couple of days trying to convert the barbarians... **** me! Your dev officer is doing dev work in your area?  |
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Post by barb05 on Jan 20, 2009 14:55:27 GMT 10
Wonder if I could wear my uniform and try to pass off as a man-child.
Waverley are going to make a mint off the bar, why didn't BV come to an agreement before hand to half bar profits with Waverley. Both parties would be laughing. This is a touch on the outrageous side.
It'll be interesting to see if;
a. Waverley have built a new away dugout
b. The usual Waverley match report appears on their website after the game
c. The pre-match announcer can get all the names correct
d. There are people with BBQ's and eskys subsidising their $10 entry selling snags and Victor Bravos down LF line - be a lot shorter queue than the canteen.
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Post by dandyboy on Jan 20, 2009 15:58:23 GMT 10
...and my club has the Development Officer out in Pakky for the next couple of days trying to convert the barbarians... **** me! Your dev officer is doing dev work in your area? and not only that i think u will find pakky are a winter only club in a league who doesn't look like joining the bv franchise. maybe bv see a long term future out in pakky. fastest growing suburb in the state i believe. |
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Post by pakkyp on Jan 20, 2009 19:46:28 GMT 10
**** me! Your dev officer is doing dev work in your area? and not only that i think u will find pakky are a winter only club in a league who doesn't look like joining the bv franchise. maybe bv see a long term future out in pakky. fastest growing suburb in the state i believe. As soon as they heard we were struggling last year, they were on the phone, and then working with us to get things moving in the right direction... of course they'd prefer us to move to Summer comp, but they are still prepared to help us out. Helping out with growing the game... who'd of thunk it? And the DBA are already part of the BV franchise... they just need to let BV know by end of month if they are leaving. |
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Post by duke on Jan 20, 2009 20:34:43 GMT 10
G'day pakkyp.
While I don't know anything about the organisational and baseball politics stuff going on at BV, I think you'll find that there are plenty of people around the traps who want to see grassroots clubs get stronger for the betterment of Victorian baseball.
Your young club has a story to tell. BV seems to have an interest in reporting on grassroots baseball. What about giving them a few notes and other material, asking them to do a story on the challenges facing smaller clubs?
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Post by pakkyp on Jan 20, 2009 20:49:42 GMT 10
G'day pakkyp. While I don't know anything about the organisational and baseball politics stuff going on at BV, I think you'll find that there are plenty of people around the traps who want to see grassroots clubs get stronger for the betterment of Victorian baseball. Your young club has a story to tell. BV seems to have an interest in reporting on grassroots baseball. What about giving them a few notes and other material, asking them to do a story on the challenges facing smaller clubs? The story pretty much tells itself... however it will have to wait until after we get our junior teams up and running. So it has a feel good ending! Oh and of course we couldn't have the story outshine the Aces winning in two games this weekend. |
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Post by bige on Jan 20, 2009 22:08:37 GMT 10
Finals at waverly... What are they thinking?
Dont worry about the $10 by the time they extend the away teams dugout there is no room for spectators...
My advise is give the houses in Right field your $10, in return you get all the balls hit into their back yard!
This will give your club enough balls for next season and guarantee a great return on your money...
I know I wouldnt want to pay $10 to see a walk off popup win a game at this standard.
Waverly's ground is in great condition give it that, but where can you watch the game? where can the extended rosters sit? and are we watching baseball or a homerun derby? Is this ABF's idea of 20/20 baseball?
Dont get me wrong love to hate waverley have respect for them and their facilities but...
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Post by stmf on Jan 21, 2009 0:02:07 GMT 10
The Ticket prices are standard from ABF all across Australia. What do you blokes pay to watch an AFL game in Melbourne Personally, the AFL would need to pay me money to watch a game of AFL... however I do know that an NRL General Admission ticket in Melbourne was $17 last year. And to be honest, I got a seat with a decent view of the playing field, a big screen to watch replays, cheerleaders to drool over. II'm sure 'll get none of those at Waverley. But I can live without those things... if they try charging more than $5.50 for a can of Jim Beam, there will be hell to pay! Geelong's $5 a can was appreciated. I dont think much can be done about the big screens, but i think Chardy might be able to help out with the cheerleaders! How bout you bring down some slappas from 161. I've seen a few dimes under your wing before mate. Give us something to look at!!! Knowing some of the young blokes on the NSW team, it may cause a bit of a distraction for em. I know Auty and Dening wont be able to keep their eyes out of the stands!!! lol What do you say chardy, can you hook a brother up or what? |
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