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Post by mackem on Mar 11, 2013 11:54:43 GMT 10
It's an absolute disgrace that Div 2 finals aren't posted by now.
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Post by Camov on Mar 11, 2013 12:18:49 GMT 10
public holiday mate.
7:30pm wednesday.
just the location to be determined.
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Post by dickieknee on Mar 11, 2013 17:29:09 GMT 10
Is this the place for a score update?
Never mind.
Masters Sandy v Bonbeach DDD's
Bottom of the fifth. 3-2 lead to Sandy, DDD's just up to bat.
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Post by dickieknee on Mar 11, 2013 17:44:33 GMT 10
Sandy win bottom if the 6th 4-2.
A very good close game to watch.
Is whitey getting taller and skinnier as he gets older?
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Post by secondbase on Mar 11, 2013 21:17:35 GMT 10
Hate to spoil the party, but there was a forfeit in the Masters game, so you are referring to a non sanctioned social game. Apparently the drive to Altona is too much for some of the players.
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Post by 6for8 on Mar 11, 2013 22:02:38 GMT 10
Not sure why your so offended secondbase. Rest assured, no party was spoiled. Great atmosphere, plenty of supporters, bay breeze, quality game and the always gracious Sandy hospitality. Good times had by all.
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Post by fuzzy on Mar 11, 2013 22:18:19 GMT 10
Hate to spoil the party, but there was a forfeit in the Masters game, so you are referring to a non sanctioned social game. Apparently the drive to Altona is too much for some of the players. Not sure how we got on this thread but the best social game of all time , 150 spectators (actaully counted), great 4-2 game, heap of kids playing a pickup game down the 3rd base-line dodging Rickie Williams foul balls, a great advert for baseball. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2013 22:28:45 GMT 10
If I'm reading this right, it seems that Sandringham and Bonbeach opted to play their final at Sandy - close to home and among friends and family - rather than making the trek out to Altona (which I'm guessing neither team particularly wanted to make on a Public Holiday - notwithstanding improvements to the facility).
Seems to make sense.
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Post by rounding3rd on Mar 11, 2013 22:45:13 GMT 10
Hate to spoil the party, but there was a forfeit in the Masters game, so you are referring to a non sanctioned social game. Apparently the drive to Altona is too much for some of the players. Sencondbase,i don't see any point in a bonbeach vs sandringham game having to played an extra 45 minute drive away not to mention free way tolls, only to get home at midnight just to go to work the following day I completely agree with both 6for and fuzzy. Was a great game to watch with a great atmosphere and possibly the best crowd I have ever seen at a masters/scratch match. Congratulations to sandringham on winning the " common sense tea towel", just a shame such a high quality masters game was played unsanctioned |
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Post by secondbase on Mar 11, 2013 22:59:43 GMT 10
The logical extension of the above logic, is never to play at Altona,for any team that has to travel. I presume the Latrobe final was made up solely of "locals" who walked to the ground. Waverley are made of sterner stuff and narrowly lost to Geelong..hope they can get to work tomorrow.Why the subterfuge re the forfeit of ONE team?Ultimately, you either accept the playing conditions that were known all year or don't operate in the competition.K.C. I presume you condone teams refusing to accept a sporting bodies expectation of adherence of playing conditions.Whether Bv should have assented to the request is a separate issue..but there is a principle at stake.
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Post by 6for8 on Mar 11, 2013 23:24:03 GMT 10
Ask BV about the "subterfuge." Both teams advised BV of their intention to contest a match at Sandringham, BV refused to sanction it. Whatever, it doesn't matter. No one actually involved is up in arms, happy days.
The logical extension of the above, above logic is to contest a Monday night Div 2 South masters final.... In the south?! You know, where every other game for the year has been played, and as demonstrated, could easily have been done. opposed to 8:30 @ Altona. All participants preferred the option taken; social baseball.
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Post by fuzzy on Mar 12, 2013 0:05:47 GMT 10
The logical extension of the above logic, is never to play at Altona,for any team that has to travel. I presume the Latrobe final was made up solely of "locals" who walked to the ground. Waverley are made of sterner stuff and narrowly lost to Geelong..hope they can get to work tomorrow.Why the subterfuge re the forfeit of ONE team?Ultimately, you either accept the playing conditions that were known all year or don't operate in the competition.K.C. I presume you condone teams refusing to accept a sporting bodies expectation of adherence of playing conditions.Whether Bv should have assented to the request is a separate issue..but there is a principle at stake. When you say playing conditions that were known all year, are you talking about finals venues that are not known till after the home and away season is completed ? KC mentioned sense lets hope this issue leads to more commonsense. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2013 0:22:00 GMT 10
Ahhn Ill stick it in here - Preston-Reservoir Buccaneers beat Werribee Bees in the battle of the stunning uniforms  8-7 the final score after being down 4 with one and half to play and Earl off the mound for the Bees :-). Great night out at Latrobe, plenty of spectators out at our ground too who also saw Melbourne win the early game by a few. The Bees were tough for us all year but we managed to get through the season undefeated and look forward to having a crack at Div1 next year (to get rid of that stupid Bye up there). |
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Post by The Puma on Mar 12, 2013 8:20:01 GMT 10
It's an absolute disgrace that Div 2 finals aren't posted by now. I actually think it's a credit to BV that on a public holiday they managed to get all finals games sorted bar the 3 with ground clashes and the 2 that don't appear to have had the preliminary finals scored sent through. |
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Post by theresonlyone on Mar 12, 2013 11:17:58 GMT 10
It is ridiculous to expect two southern based division 2 masters teams to play a final at Altona.
the south competition was deliberatly established to minimise travel times, to group clubs together for ease of getting to games after work and to keep Masters baseball at the social level it is played at.
It further supports the local clubs canteen and bar and makes it easier for friends, family and spectators to come and look. Most importantly in Division 2 where there are many new/ returning players to the game.
The masters sub committee formed in 2012 should have fought harder for these two teams to have thier game played in the south.
they have proved and shown how good masters is on a monday night at your local baseball club, and did i read the kids were running around playing games as well?
thats what we want!!!
we dont need to play at Altona, except when we play geelong. leave Altona for Division 1/2/3, masters isnt about championships or medals or flags.
never has been. its about fun, mates and having a meal after the game.
it would be great for BV to re assess thier decision and realise they may have dropped the ball on this one.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2013 16:43:37 GMT 10
The masters sub committee formed in 2012 should have fought harder for these two teams to have thier game played in the south. Without speaking out of turn mate (sort of), as one of the members of the aforementioned Masters Sub-Committee I agree that we could/should have fought harder blah blah blah - I know I would have (within reason) given that I proposed the Regional Divisions for Div-2 Masters baseball 3 years ago and feel (3 years later) that for the most part this has been a pretty positive change in Masters ball on Monday Nights. However my/our ability to 'fight' or have ANY INPUT was denied given that I/we? had no ideal of this 'brewing' issue and eventual outcome until after the event ! |
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Post by wyatt33 on Mar 12, 2013 18:00:07 GMT 10
Imagine for a minute, if there were a proper baseball stadium in the east/south east that could be used for such occasions? I remember a thread a while back, with some members of this forum, criticized for daring to suggest this should happen, instead of wanting to go to altona for a game of baseball! Funny how things can change....
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Post by doubleplay on Mar 13, 2013 9:03:55 GMT 10
Rumour has it,(such a nasty word) that Sandringham approached BV on the following Tuesday after the semi final to try and make arrangements, but fell on deaf ears. Well done Sandy and Bonny for their temerity in putting community baseball ahead of beaurocratic bungling.
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Post by pirates on Mar 17, 2013 9:05:08 GMT 10
It seems that decisions are made and even though common-sense tells us there are better options they don't listen. I think the league forget that they are there for our benefit. I have never seen a season of so many conflicts, there are plenty of overseeing committees and management who should have taken responsibility for the management of our fixturing. Someone makes the final call on these things, on one hand they insist for a masters final of 2 teams from the east to be played at Mbp on a long weekend monday and yet they cancel the supper Saturday grand finals at a ground that has had lots go government $$$. Then tell us that a push from clubs to play them at home grounds. Which clubs were asked, nobody is telling us.
Again who is making these decision and are they talking to the most important people, that being the clubs.
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