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Post by larry42 on Mar 15, 2012 5:51:26 GMT 10
Good luck to all teams across the 3 Divisions starting their finals action this week.
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Post by houghy49 on Mar 15, 2012 16:52:59 GMT 10
I must say I'm really looking forward to what I believe will be one of the best finals series in a long time across all three divisions! Good luck to all twelve teams participating on Saturday and let's hope for some sunshine!! My tips: Div 1 Game 1 - I'll leave that one to the imagination  Game 2 - Malven over a well improved Geelong outfit Div 2 Game 1 - Springvale (in the match of the round) Game 2 - Werribee (will be heavily relied upon EJ pitching a winner) Div 3 Game 1 - Springvale Game 2 - Doncaster kids will fire to take the W here |
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Post by perfeckt on Mar 15, 2012 21:27:47 GMT 10
Thanx houghy49!
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Post by larry42 on Mar 16, 2012 8:13:24 GMT 10
D1
Should be a cracker at Deep Creek with the games between Donkey and Springy this year being terrific close games. How much on a 1 run ballgame?
Malvern just over Gelong but i reckon this one could be closer than people think.
D2
Springy easy over Wav.
Werr? Will depend if EJ is playing though...
D3
Wav to win at home
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Post by wako on Mar 16, 2012 8:23:18 GMT 10
Div 1:
Game 1: Both sides seem evenly matched by head to head and ladder position. I haven't seen Springvale, but if they're a match for Doncaster, they must be very good indeed. I can't tip any decisive result on the info available, just a good close game.
Game 2: Malvern's record makes them favourites, but Geelong do have a win over them this season. If Mills throws well and the batters bat to capability, especially the top 6-7 or so, Geelong can win, which is my (admittedly biased) tip - they'll lift for this game.
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Post by eckersley43 on Mar 17, 2012 20:28:29 GMT 10
Womens Div 1 Result Springvale over Doncaster in a thriller 3-2 (which makes Larry's prediction pure genius!) Springvale jumped to a 2 run lead in the first with Shae Lillywhite and the next two batters signalling their aggressive intentions by going after the first pitch they received., to have 2 on base. Several uncharacteristic infield errors by Doncaster assisted the hard driving Springvale batters. Doncaster replied with one run in the second,and one in the fourth with Springvale adding one in the third.Apart from that there was a combined 9 scoreless innings with Kat Rowe pitching 5, Kate Psota 2 closing innnings that shut Doncaster out of a late revival. For Doncaster Kathy Welsh pitched 7 including 5 scoreless innings. Other highlights were two great flies at left field by Josephine Pope with Springvale runners in scoring positions.Not much in it, but Springvales batting was stronger and slightly more solid in the field.What price another close one if we get Springvale v Doncaster in the Grand Final?
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Post by houghy49 on Mar 17, 2012 21:14:50 GMT 10
A close Springvale v Doncaster game at any stage of the season is a no brainer really. It's been like this for several years and I believe it will be for several more. Was a great game to be a part of today and congrats on my girls for battling it out in our third one run game v Doncaster for the season. It was and always is a great pitchers duel as proved today with Kathy Welsh throwing a great game and Cat and Kate combining to give Springy the win. Div 1: Springvale d Doncaster 3-2 Geelong d Malvern 7-5 (congrats on the Baycats for their first Div 1 finals appearance and on getting the win. Look forward to hearing about this game too!!) Div 2 Waverley d Springvale 13-0 in a less than impressive outing by Springvale. Werribee d Doncaster 3-1 Div 3 Springvale d Malvern 16-12 Waverley d Doncaster  ? |
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Post by MF on Mar 18, 2012 6:27:11 GMT 10
Div 2 Waverley d Springvale 13-0 in a less than impressive outing by Springvale. Yes and no. A disastrous start lost the game for Springvale, with wild pitching giving up seven runs in the first on 8 walks and 2 HPBs. The two teams traded 0s for next 4 1/2 innings. The deciding factor was the outstanding pitching from Terina - throwing hard to control the game in a dominant display reminiscent of her heyday. But take away that first half innings and it's a very close game. (Gutsy performance from the Springvale starter to remain in the game and come back well after after throwing 60+ pitches in the first innings alone, not coming out until mid-way through the sixth innings. Must have thrown a lot of pitches though... no relievers? Ouch.) |
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Post by larry42 on Mar 18, 2012 17:13:42 GMT 10
Womens Div 1 Result Springvale over Doncaster in a thriller 3-2 (which makes Larry's prediction pure genius!) Springvale jumped to a 2 run lead in the first with Shae Lillywhite and the next two batters signalling their aggressive intentions by going after the first pitch they received., to have 2 on base. Several uncharacteristic infield errors by Doncaster assisted the hard driving Springvale batters. Doncaster replied with one run in the second,and one in the fourth with Springvale adding one in the third.Apart from that there was a combined 9 scoreless innings with Kat Rowe pitching 5, Kate Psota 2 closing innnings that shut Doncaster out of a late revival. For Doncaster Kathy Welsh pitched 7 including 5 scoreless innings. Other highlights were two great flies at left field by Josephine Pope with Springvale runners in scoring positions.Not much in it, but Springvales batting was stronger and slightly more solid in the field.What price another close one if we get Springvale v Doncaster in the Grand Final? Genius? Got this one right and thought Geelong would beat Malv. Missed badly on the D2 game between top side Springy and Wav though. |
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Post by mandi on Mar 24, 2012 19:00:01 GMT 10
Well the scene has now been set, starting at 10am is Springvale V Waverley, 1pm is Waverley V Springvale, and the closer at 4pm is Springvale V Doncaster. Good luck to all players, coaches and scorers......
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Post by larry42 on Mar 26, 2012 11:46:59 GMT 10
Hopefully some tight games and good baseball this weekend.
Says a lot about the two programs (springy and Donc) when these teams continue to play off for the Div 1 title each year. Will seem strange when another team can get in between them and break the run. This game should be another cracker and probably will come down to who can come up with the plays defensively.
D2 final between Spring and Wav also should be a close game. The semi final result has little meaning and this will be a game of keeping the heart of each line up quiet.
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Post by wearnie52 on Mar 26, 2012 13:10:15 GMT 10
I can't wait to watch the D2 game larry. Stokes v Smith, the ex-Vic/Aussie pitcher v the 19 year old from Moe who really showed some heart last weekend by coming back to have a good outing against Werribee, after a disastrous one the previous week against Waverley.
Whichever way the game goes, I'm very proud of the girls in our Two's for getting to the big dance.
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Post by larry42 on Mar 26, 2012 13:54:36 GMT 10
I can't wait to watch the D2 game larry. Stokes v Smith, the ex-Vic/Aussie pitcher v the 19 year old from Moe who really showed some heart last weekend by coming back to have a good outing against Werribee, after a disastrous one the previous week against Waverley. Whichever way the game goes, I'm very proud of the girls in our Two's for getting to the big dance. Thats all you can ask for with a pitcher who can bounce back after an off week the week before, to throw a good game in the prelim when the pressure is squarely on. I wouldn't have expected any different though from a team that finished on top though, to go out in two straight. Some seasoned heads in that team as well. |
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Post by eckersley43 on Mar 26, 2012 19:11:37 GMT 10
It will be interesting to see if Waverley can match Springvales depth in batting and fielding, or if pitching dominance will be the decider.
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Post by houghy49 on Mar 26, 2012 21:45:14 GMT 10
Says a lot about the two programs (springy and Donc) when these teams continue to play off for the Div 1 title each year. Will seem strange when another team can get in between them and break the run. This game should be another cracker and probably will come down to who can come up with the plays defensively. I'm going to predict that the offence will be the difference on Saturday in the Div 1 game... three out of four games have been pitching duals so far this year between the two teams, so I'm going to say that this year the winning team will be the team to bring their bats out swinging harder than they have all year!! I'm tipping for it to a similar scoreline to that of last years grand final... 10+ runs on the day... 3 run ball game. Good luck to all teams playing on Saturday and let's hope the the forecast of 27 and late shower is what it says... a LATE shower (during the evening would be fantastic thanks weather Gods!!) |
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Post by larry42 on Mar 28, 2012 11:11:09 GMT 10
Picks for the weekend. Based solely on a guess because i reckon these 3 games really could go either way.
D1 - Springy in a close one. Not sure why, maybe just that extra pitching option to get them over the line.
D2 - Wav just because. Should be a close game and result in this one will hinge a lot on the starting pitching.
D3 - Wav again.
Good luck to all Wildcat, Big Cat and Dragon women in their respective games this week.
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Post by stuartcapel on Mar 28, 2012 11:41:03 GMT 10
So does that mean we would see Waverley in Divisions One and Two next season Larry?
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Post by larry42 on Mar 28, 2012 13:48:57 GMT 10
So does that mean we would see Waverley in Divisions One and Two next season Larry? Is there a promotion/relegation system for women's next year Stu? Not sure at this stage how many teams Wav will have in the women's section regardless of result this weekend. There is some water that has to pass under the bridge before we get to that. |
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Post by stuartcapel on Mar 28, 2012 13:59:27 GMT 10
Not sure how you expect me to know the ins and outs of the Pennant Committee's plans for next season, but for the Division Two team, following an undefeated season in 10-11 and entering a Grand Final in 11-12 having beaten their past six opponents by a combined total of ninety-seven (average winning margin being 16.5 runs per game), and back to back Division Three Grand Finals, what more is there to prove in their current divisions?
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Post by larry42 on Mar 28, 2012 15:23:51 GMT 10
Not sure how you expect me to know the ins and outs of the Pennant Committee's plans for next season, but for the Division Two team, following an undefeated season in 10-11 and entering a Grand Final in 11-12 having beaten their past six opponents by a combined total of ninety-seven (average winning margin being 16.5 runs per game), and back to back Division Three Grand Finals, what more is there to prove in their current divisions? I forgot i was discussing this with Mr.Stats. Nice pick up though Stu. Nothing mentioned of the 2 run loss and, 1 run loss to two final teams during the second half, nor the two wash outs to two finals contenders either. Yep a few blow outs in last 6 games but horrific pitching against will tend to have a big factor in that happening including 20 (13 bb's & 7 hpb's) free passes in the first final against the then top side. The Division 3 side also had to win the last game of the regular season to cement their spot in the finals so not exactly a canter for them either. Have played and won two games to book a berth in GF. Proof..it's got nothing to do with proving anything Stu. Its just about the game and the fact that they just want to play it. You were involved with some of them Stu last year, do you think there's an agenda? |
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Post by eckersley43 on Mar 28, 2012 16:20:30 GMT 10
Regardless of the Div 2 result, I would have thought Waverley would have to enter Div 1..the alternative of Springvale having two Div 2 teams doesn't seem realistic or healthy for the comp.
In terms of who would come down Port Melbourne would seem to be realistically placed in Div 2, even though they would most likely win division 2. It seems to me that either Waverley or Port Melbourne would dominate Div 2, but what would be the logical argument against Waverley moving up to Div 1?
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Post by larry42 on Mar 29, 2012 10:09:40 GMT 10
Regardless of the Div 2 result, I would have thought Waverley would have to enter Div 1..the alternative of Springvale having two Div 2 teams doesn't seem realistic or healthy for the comp. In terms of who would come down Port Melbourne would seem to be realistically placed in Div 2, even though they would most likely win division 2. It seems to me that either Waverley or Port Melbourne would dominate Div 2, but what would be the logical argument against Waverley moving up to Div 1? There is no simple answer although some people would like to think there is. Let's be honest here, other than Donc and Springy D1 teams/programs you really don't know what you are going to get on a year by year basis with anything else. It's a shame that women's baseball is as fickle as it is, but that's where the game is at the moment. Geel & Foots enjoyed terrific seasons in D1. Both teams helped along by Canadian imports to surround solid core players. Does this stay viable for them on a yearly basis, or has their success enabled them to promote the sport in their area enough to draw in junior girls and other senior women to keep them at that level. Port Melb were almost done and dusted after last season. (confirmed not assumption) But the coach stayed on, senior players stayed and a Canadian import helped them stay competitive enough to look toward next season. The team wanted to play D1 from the start because they needed to to keep some of their higher level players. How does BV set the division set up of teams at the start of the year, i'm not sure what the best case is as there are pros/cons for both promotion/relegation system and grading system Div 2 wasn't dominated by one team this year. Top team (Spring) lost one game in re draw. 2nd team (Wav) lost two and had 2 wash outs against 3rd & 4th both away. Nexy 4 teams were close with 7 wins for 3rd and 4 wins for 6th. The difference in lop sided games which is the contributing factor at D2 and D3 level is teams that can consistently throw strikes and offensively put the ball in play. If BV asked PM to go down or Wav to go up, i'm sure both clubs/teams would need to assess what's the best for their specific program first. How much pitching and catching do they have, will they be competitive against the power teams, where does it sit with the development of their younger girls, etc.. |
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Post by eckersley43 on Mar 29, 2012 16:24:06 GMT 10
SECRET FINALS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just checked out BV home page/news etc. NOT ONE word, let alone article or photos promoting the all division grand finals at Malvern on Saturday.Surely it can't be difficult to use the web site for Womens baseball promotion..all other areas get a run.
I would like to put an interpretation on it that doesn't come down to judgements such as Apathy..Unprofessionalism..Insulting to Womens baseball...Am I missing something??
For the people who aren't interested..that's their prerogative, but not for the controlling body dedicated to promoting the game. And yes, Womens baseball is just as legitimate as Mens/Masters etc as a form of the game..assuming an interest in BASEBALL.
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Post by splitfinger on Mar 29, 2012 16:52:07 GMT 10
SECRET FINALS!!!!!!!!!!!! Just checked out BV home page/news etc. NOT ONE word, let alone article or photos promoting the all division grand finals at Malvern on Saturday.Surely it can't be difficult to use the web site for Womens baseball promotion..all other areas get a run. I would like to put an interpretation on it that doesn't come down to judgements such as Apathy..Unprofessionalism..Insulting to Womens baseball...Am I missing something?? For the people who aren't interested..that's their prerogative, but not for the controlling body dedicated to promoting the game. And yes, Womens baseball is just as legitimate as Mens/Masters etc as a form of the game..assuming an interest in BASEBALL. Couldn't agree more. Just went to the BV site hoping to see a preview of the Womens Finals and am disappointed to see nothing there. Regardless of what people think of the womens competition and its setup etc, the participating teams have worked d**n hard to get there and deserve at least a mention on the BV site. Even more frustrating given that BV have gone to the effort of having a 'super Saturday' finals setup for the womens grand finals. It's a great concept and should be promoted as such. Seems a lot like now that the mens/masters titles have been decided there is no care factor whatsoever about the womens finals. Good luck to all participating on Saturday. Here's hoping for 3 closely fought games. |
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Post by houghy49 on Mar 29, 2012 21:28:16 GMT 10
STOP THE PRESSES!!!!!
There you have it folks, BV have finally acknowledged Super Saturday, with what can only be described as a front page feature length hyperlink!!!
All of a sudden I feel Women's baseball in Victoria has been validated!
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Post by eckersley43 on Mar 30, 2012 12:28:51 GMT 10
Having revisited the site, I happily retract my criticism.It is a great piece on the Women's Finals..congratulations to the author/s. No doubt there are valid reasons why it couldn't have appeared earlier.
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Post by splitfinger on Mar 30, 2012 16:23:00 GMT 10
Better late than never BV. Would love to see a follow up piece on the results and the day in general as the day itself is now somewhat of a tradition.
Otherwise will look forward to anything posted here from those there on the day to get all the news.
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Post by eckersley43 on Apr 1, 2012 15:07:55 GMT 10
Until we get a comprehensive report on the G Finals (guess the winners are celebrating and the losers drowning theirs sorrows) Div3 Comprehensive win by Waverley over Springvale, by a team looking very much like Div2 standard,
Div2 Springvale reversed their previous meetings in a close game that went into uncharted waters (9 innings) Both starting pitchers kept the game tight backed up by sound and at times briliant fielding.The difference? Although it could have gone either way as the scores ebbed and flowed Springvale batters looked more aggressive (maybe so many walks to Waverley in the semi set them up to sit on the bat a bit too much in the early stages) and the Springvale catcher crushed a couple of right field doubles to bring runners home, and then finished the game as relief pitcher by shutting Waverley out.
In Div1 Doncaster defeated Springvale with a record 10+ win..Springvale made several uncharacteristic and costly defensive errors, but the magnitude of the win couldn't be argued with.
Congratulations to all participants. It was a great day of and for baseball.
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Post by wearnie52 on Apr 1, 2012 16:57:09 GMT 10
Eckersley, you've done well with your explanations of the day. Pretty much spot on.
I thought Malvern did a fantastic job of hosting the grand finals this year. Really went all out yesterday to ensure it was a great day. Big thanks to all involved.
Springy 3's had a tough day, as did the 1's. Thought both teams were the best in their respective divisions for 95% of the season. Just a shame that they both had pretty terrible days for the 5% when it really counted. Was very glad that the 2's had a great 9 inning win to salvage one flag or the club this season. What a great game. And an excellent performance by catcher Siobhan Taylor. Got at least 3 or 4 knocks, caught 7 innings and pitched the last 2. Not a bad day at the office.
Would just like to say a huge well done to all the Springy girls, and everyone from the club. Our program had it's best year yet, with all 3 teams making grand finals. It's a credit to all of the coaching staff, support staff, players, committee and members. Our women's program is strongly supported by our men's program, and their support does not go unnoticed. Looking forward to another great season in 12/13.
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Post by larry42 on Apr 2, 2012 0:37:25 GMT 10
A big shout out to the people at Malvern for the organisation of the day. When the weather is good, it really is a great baseball field to hold the grand finals.
Was terrific being a part of an excellent game of baseball in the D2 GF. 9 inngs of gripping baseball, played in good spirit, which ebbed and flowed from about the 5th onwards. Congrats to all players involved in that game.
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