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Post by sanchez2 on Nov 20, 2011 17:59:33 GMT 10
Cheers authentic, we know we are in for some really tough competition in B grade!
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Post by regg44 on Nov 20, 2011 20:36:09 GMT 10
Legend, interesting that you seem to know all the FACTS about what goes in within F Hills - time for you to put up or shut up ....
Who were the players who were paid?, paid no fees? received free uniforms?
Who are the trophy winners from 2011 that approached another A grade club and were told they weren't wanted?
Apart from Chinny missing one club job, what are the other summer jobs that the coaching staff missed out on? (and remember Legend I am one of those coaches so I think I really do know the FACTS on this one)
By the by how many games in A grade have you played? Perhaps you misconstrue the difference between being at an A grade club and being an A grade player as Kenny pointed out.
Perhaps you might like to also enlighten us as to why you seem to have such a set against F Hills- a club that has tried very hard to grow numbers at both senior and junior levels; has a sound administration and a genuine family culture
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Post by legend on Nov 20, 2011 21:14:21 GMT 10
Where did I say, that I play? re read boys and read it properly this time instead of seeing what you want to see....ffs
As for knowing what goes on at FH, let's just say "loose lips sink ships" and I hear this stuff from players at your club.
As for naming the players that DID approach another club, do you really think that would be the right thing to do on a forum Ken? If you had of sent me a polite PM asking I would of shared. Maybe I will post it in the rumour mill closer to winter.
Funny how you are asking me a lot of questions about your club!
Anyway, it's been fun guys, I got the reaction I was looking for from you lot!!! Best of luck in B grade, hope to see you back up soon!
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Post by sanchez2 on Nov 21, 2011 16:38:25 GMT 10
Because a polite PM was how you have handled the situation!
If you are going to fish for a reaction in a public forum (as your emoticons have so proudly eluded too), then you need to justify/clarify your comments.
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Post by andywawra on Nov 24, 2011 14:48:30 GMT 10
Ah, I love gossip ... it's so much better and more exciting than the truth. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.
"Legend" ... wow ... I have a theory. When people are too scared to say who they really are it's usually because they are cowards and if they actually said who they were everyone would just laugh.
Until you have the guts to put your name on your posts your opinion is worthless.
Let me clear up some facts for you. As a former President of the club and current Vice President I think I have more info than you. Certainly more of an idea of what the truth looks like.
Firstly, the proposal for the league to go to 12 teams was from Mark LeGrew. You may have heard of him, he’s the league president and a very good one. FHBC did apply to stay up, that is the current league requirements. Knox and Waverley also have applied to go up to A grade.
As there were nine teams already going to stay in A Grade and three that had applied to go into/stay in A grade Mark approached us advising that he was going to put a proposal forward that A Grade become a 12 team comp. Of course we agreed and strongly supported the plan.
No disrespect to B grade but of course we would rather play A grade.
The theory behind the submission was that Knox deserved to go up (and congratulations to them, they have earned it). FHBC and Waverley are two teams with more young talent than most. Both, if they can keep their core of outstanding young players, should become a real strong force in the next 5 years.
The beauty of having someone like Mark in front of the league is that he is a strong supporter of all clubs in the MWBL. FHBC met with Mark at the start of the season outlining a five year plan that would see FHBC “compete for A Grade finals in 2014”. He fully supported us and our results in A grade showed that we have been taking the right steps in the right direction to achieve our goal and as a good league President would, Mark supported us.
At the league AGM I stated that we were working toward our goal of “competing for A Grade finals in 2014”. Our 5 year plan that we started in 2010 culminates in “competing for A grade finals in 2014”. Those of us in the inner sanctum know we are closer than most think to being a genuine A grade club.
I assume you weren’t at the league AGM and as with every case of Chinese whispers … the story changes every time it is told … it has more effect and seems better if you change it a little. I have never spoken about winning an A grade premiership. It is something we would like to do but know it’s not on the horizon yet. We are realistic, we believe that we need to learn to walk before we start talking about competing in marathons.
Speaking on behalf of FHBC, we still believe we have the right coaching team to lead us to our goal. If you think that you can get a better mix of experience than Chinny, Phil & Al then you are kidding yourself. I don’t care whether other clubs have knocked them back for roles. It is their loss. The guys have been fantastic at our club and we still support each of them 100%.
Your ever so creative laughing emoticon suggests that you have not been around baseball long enough to have any idea what levels of experience these guys have. I’d suggest maybe one day you should google them. Their achievements are very impressive.
This is my first post … I must admit I have been reading the forum for a long time but never felt the need to come on … it’s people like you “legend” that have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and really should pull your head out of the sand and you might realise what the real world looks like.
Lastly, a huge congratulations to Barry on his Life membership. Barry is a great guy (although I wish he would stop hitting on my mum) and one that we all love dearly (not enough to be my step father Barry). He has been great for baseball for such a long time. Well done and very well deserved Barry. You are welcome to visit our club any time.
Andy Wawra
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Post by Marshy on Nov 24, 2011 15:19:31 GMT 10
Andy,
Can't believe you felt the need to justify ANYTHING to this half wit.
What club wouldn't promote itself given a chance?
I think it's commendable that FHBC has a plan. I don't care if the plan was as unrealistic as "we'll play in the World Series". If you have a goal, you can work towards it. Better to have a plan and contiunally revise it, than to not have a plan at all.
Planning to be a "Richard Cranium" your whole life doesn't count Legend.
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Post by andywawra on Nov 24, 2011 15:28:42 GMT 10
Actually, that's not a bad idea.
I hear Sir Albert is a free agent. I think we might go and get him and we'll go get Prince Fielder to DH. Maybe add Reyes to look after SS and we'll trade Kenny to Miami for Han Ram. That'd give us a much better lineup.
1. Jose Reyes (SS)
2. Hanley Ramirez (3B - we'd convert him)
3. Albert Pujols (1B)
4. Prince Fielder (DH)
I think we can squeeze them into our payroll.
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Post by andywawra on Nov 24, 2011 15:30:39 GMT 10
by the way Marshy, how does one become "Grandest of the Pubahs" ?
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Post by lonewolf75 on Nov 24, 2011 15:36:48 GMT 10
Be extrmely opinionated and make lots of posts about nuffin...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2011 15:47:45 GMT 10
Welcome aboard, Andy.
Excellent first post.
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Post by andywawra on Nov 24, 2011 15:55:53 GMT 10
Thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2011 17:28:27 GMT 10
Be extrmely opinionated and make lots of posts about nuffin... Thats funny..........and little bit true of all of us Im sure :-) I think we can all move on now thats all be cleared up - thanks Andy. |
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Post by Camov on Nov 24, 2011 21:24:38 GMT 10
if there were more people like andy, there would be a lot less forum :-).
best of luck to the forest hill boys they played 2 quality games against us this year!
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Post by moneyball on Feb 1, 2012 13:43:51 GMT 10
Im hearing whispers that Knox have improved their lineup dramatically, at a cost to them, and other clubs. Some big names, which makes me wonder how much it is costing them.
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Post by andyt on Feb 1, 2012 13:49:35 GMT 10
oh here we go, let the trash talk begin... too many people with too much time on their hands
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Post by moneyball on Feb 1, 2012 14:07:30 GMT 10
I'm sure these guys, if true, don't come easily.
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Post by wyatt33 on Feb 2, 2012 13:56:22 GMT 10
Not a big winter guy, but I'll ask, will you folk lhave the same opinion in regards to summer results, seeing as there are clearly going to be issues with the promotion/delegation of clubs between first and sec divs? Could be some similar arguments being thrown around come seasons end.....
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Post by farnt on Feb 2, 2012 21:32:15 GMT 10
Sorry Wyatt, I'd give an opinion if I understood the question!
On another note, can anyone tell me when the Winter 2012 season starts? Trying to book an investment weekend away with the bride between seasons to rack up some credits...I'm sure I'm not on my Pat Malone.
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Post by rammo on Feb 3, 2012 7:56:04 GMT 10
On another note, can anyone tell me when the Winter 2012 season starts? Trying to book an investment weekend away with the bride between seasons to rack up some credits...I'm sure I'm not on my Pat Malone. I have seen the 14th of April as a start date. Don't quote me though.. |
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Post by lardio on Feb 3, 2012 8:45:40 GMT 10
21st of April fellas, with the heritage round at greensborough on the 14th. Will be a great day for sure.
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Post by farnt on Feb 3, 2012 10:35:02 GMT 10
Thanks Big Fella. Will you be stiching two of your old uniforms together to play on the 14th?
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Post by thehotcorner on Feb 3, 2012 12:35:17 GMT 10
Question guys - the game on the 14th to open the season, is that locked in as Monty & Greensborough or is the league maybe looking at having the previous seasons grand finalist open the season which this year would be Research & Greensborough.
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Post by stockley on Feb 3, 2012 20:47:14 GMT 10
Question guys - the game on the 14th to open the season, is that locked in as Monty & Greensborough or is the league maybe looking at having the previous seasons grand finalist open the season which this year would be Research & Greensborough. Since it was a Monty/Greensborough initative, I would suggest it will most likely stay that way... |
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Post by thehotcorner on Feb 3, 2012 21:13:55 GMT 10
Question guys - the game on the 14th to open the season, is that locked in as Monty & Greensborough or is the league maybe looking at having the previous seasons grand finalist open the season which this year would be Research & Greensborough. Since it was a Monty/Greensborough initative, I would suggest it will most likely stay that way... Oh okay, I was unaware they initiated it. Fair enough then! |
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Post by eckersley43 on Feb 5, 2012 21:31:25 GMT 10
I have a question for the modestly titled legend. On what basis do you denigrate Chinny and Phil Bertrand as coaches. As a nuetral person involved in baseball I thought they were excellent..but then I have not have been a State or National player or an accredited coach with a wealth of success as no doubt you must have had legend! You could take a leaf out of Ken's book and have the courage to declare your "interest" in Forest Hill.
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Post by legend on Feb 5, 2012 22:41:43 GMT 10
I have a question for the modestly titled legend. On what basis do you denigrate Chinny and Phil Bertrand as coaches. As a nuetral person involved in baseball I thought they were excellent..but then I have not have been a State or National player or an accredited coach with a wealth of success as no doubt you must have had legend! You could take a leaf out of Ken's book and have the courage to declare your "interest" in Forest Hill. Not sure if you are being a smart ass or if you have caught on how great I am. Is my greatness that obvious? maybe I should tone it down so you aren't in my shadow  No interest in Forest Hill, what so ever, whats your interest there? What's it to you what my interest there is? You know what Ken can do with his book........Good luck to them in 2012 I heard one of those coaches mentioned above in your question no longer holds a division 1 RESERVES coaching job after an event from last weekend......I won't comment on that though as it may add to your view that I am being denigrate |
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Post by eckersley43 on Feb 6, 2012 12:49:54 GMT 10
The point as to your "interest" in FHills was on the basis that you appear to have an axe to grind with them to the point of denigrating two coaches (laughing emoticon!) without putting up your qualifications (either paper ones or as an experienced observer player/whatever) As to "being in your shadow", at least you have given a clue as to your rear end dimensions if not to your identity.
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Post by farnt on Feb 7, 2012 12:18:32 GMT 10
Whilst not exactly an A Grade question, any news from Mitchell Majors re 2012? Few changes up there I imagine with a tough 2011 season. Big Luke seems out for a while still and maybe a few other players looking at options...
Do MM plan on staying in B Grade in 2012 or back to C Grade?
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Post by andywawra on Feb 8, 2012 16:04:28 GMT 10
Awesome, the self confessed “legend” is back.
You can’t be “denigrate” … the word denigrate is a verb. You can denigrate someone but you can’t be denigrate. May I suggest you go back to grade 4 English and learn the difference between a verb and a noun.
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Post by legend on Feb 8, 2012 16:27:21 GMT 10
Thanks Andy, prob the smartest post you have contributed to the topic!! Well done, things are really looking up for you!
Do you wish to reignite the slanging? I can't see where in my previous post I have restarted it, but I'm up for it!!
In grade 4, we play games. I like a game that goes like this " I spy with my little eyes.....something beginning with.....B"
Now it's your turn to guess what it is, I will give you a clue this time round...... You have a long history in it!!!!
I too can be a smart ass!
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