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Post by ryanevans on Jun 4, 2009 12:36:44 GMT 10
Just got home from japan to find ringwood have no team and dv have very young team. Can LV be the underdog and win division 1 this year? Where are all the DV and Ringwood players? Bit disappointing to see!
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Post by bobby on Jun 4, 2009 12:43:02 GMT 10
Well young Ranga, as you play in the DV zone you should be suiting up for them??
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Post by 6for8 on Jun 4, 2009 12:43:47 GMT 10
keep it under your hat Evo.
LV cant steal a flag if everyone knows its coming...
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Post by lonewolf75 on Jun 4, 2009 12:54:17 GMT 10
I heard a bit of a rumour that there was a boycott by a number of Ringwood district guys after comments about certain behavour last year tourny.
Dont know who or what it is all about.
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Post by gj on Jun 5, 2009 11:16:30 GMT 10
Beware the Valley - could be the first team ever to win Div 2 then 1 in consecutive years.
6 for 8 trying to play down their chances - with Prior & Power to throw all weekend against weakened Div 1 teams they are a big shot.
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Post by Reggie on Jun 5, 2009 11:20:05 GMT 10
Where you staying gj. Might drop in and say hello.
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Post by 6for8 on Jun 5, 2009 12:12:59 GMT 10
awww... you spoiled it.
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Post by pakkyp on Jun 5, 2009 12:16:45 GMT 10
did I here correctly that a 08 LV all star might be making a cameo appearance for the DBA tomorrow? |
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Post by 6for8 on Jun 5, 2009 12:49:06 GMT 10
only if Qantas starts flying Direct from Stockholm to Geelong...
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Post by thewholetruth on Jun 5, 2009 13:28:47 GMT 10
avalon?
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Post by gj on Jun 5, 2009 13:35:21 GMT 10
Reggie,
Bring Smyles with you when you visit.
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Post by pakkyp on Jun 5, 2009 14:22:18 GMT 10
only if Qantas starts flying Direct from Stockholm to Geelong... Did he make the actual list, or just talk himself up? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2009 19:09:26 GMT 10
Dandenong won two and lost one to lead Divvy One after Day One. Sunraysia is undefeated in Division Two. www.geelongbaseball.com.au |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2009 18:21:07 GMT 10
Latrobe Valley has won its first Division One winter championship (3 zip over Diamond Valley in final). Sunraysia over North-East 7-2 in Division Two final. Nice work, forum tipsters.  www.geelongbaseball.com.au |
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Post by outsider on Jun 9, 2009 12:46:30 GMT 10
Gee its sad to see the Winter Championships receive such little support.
The DV team was nothing more than a Watsonia Practice Match squad. Pretty sad reflection if that side finishes Runners up, taking nothing away from Latrobe Valley at least they showed a bit of support for the Championships took a decent squad and came home with the crown.
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Post by Chardy on Jun 9, 2009 13:18:41 GMT 10
I went to Geelong one year to play in this tournament and can say it wasnt much fun playing in the freezing cold. The first game we played was on the Saturday morning, first pitch at 8:30am. I was playing right field and couldnt see the batter because of the fog.
I found the tournament was a distraction from the evenings "piss up". You might find why guys arent interested in going any longer because this is what it has turned into??
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Post by pakkyp on Jun 9, 2009 14:25:00 GMT 10
I went to Geelong one year to play in this tournament and can say it wasnt much fun playing in the freezing cold. The first game we played was on the Saturday morning, first pitch at 8:30am. I was playing right field and couldnt see the batter because of the fog. I found the tournament was a distraction from the evenings "piss up". You might find why guys arent interested in going any longer because this is what it has turned into?? it sounds like you didn't get sufficiently drunk the night before the first game. If you were still intoxicated during the first game you wouldn't of felt the cold at all... I heard that most refused to play as a silent tribute to last years banned DBA team |
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Post by Chardy on Jun 9, 2009 14:56:55 GMT 10
Whats a "DBA"?
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Post by thewholetruth on Jun 9, 2009 15:29:40 GMT 10
Its the toolless baseball league.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2009 16:34:35 GMT 10
Its the toolless baseball league. I highly doubt that such a thing exists... |
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Post by thewholetruth on Jun 9, 2009 16:48:38 GMT 10
Its tongue in cheek lando, just look at the last half a dozen posts in the dba circus thread. all the tools have gathered in 1 place. |
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Post by stockley on Jun 9, 2009 17:24:04 GMT 10
Its the toolless baseball league. Should that read "toothless"?  |
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Post by rick on Jun 9, 2009 18:45:26 GMT 10
I heard that most refused to play as a silent tribute to last years banned DBA team I had an idea that was the case - but if that is true, I am sad. Whatever happened last year and whether it was handled appropriately should be irrelevant now. Instead of a protest to show 'support' to last year's team, the baseball community (ie. the players) should have taken positive action to fix the problem. I would like to know the point (aside from showing support) of not playing the game most of us love? We have a hard enough time promoting the bloody game without lowering the level of competition due to petty reasons. I would hate it, as a player, if LV finished last in next year's championship. But if it was because Ringwood, DV, GBA and DBA took their best 15-20 blokes away, I would accept it as a supporter of the game. It would be good for baseball. If positive action isn't taken, we will lose the winter championship because i doubt BV will want to host a grog trip for substandard teams. The last thing we need is less baseball and less socialising between players. |
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Post by gj on Jun 9, 2009 18:58:35 GMT 10
I'm devastated Sportsbet wouldn't frame a market.
I could have paid for next years trip.
Great job to 6for, Rick, Lil Horny & the boys.
They took you lighty after they were warned............
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Post by gj on Jun 10, 2009 10:25:57 GMT 10
Been reading KC's proposal for a new long weekend championships, and don't necessarily agree. Given that this years Div 1 wasn't the best stanard ever, but I defy anyone to watch the likes of North East & Sunraysia and tell me they are not giving their all and having a good time as well. There can be nothing gained by stopping the country based teams playing in the championships as they are. Even Bendigo, with a lack of numbers to pick from, still rolls out Casey & JD to support the young guys in the team.
Whilst DDD was in charge of DBA, they always played it hard and were in the final most years (or thereabouts). Only for the farce of last year, this would have continued.The only association that doesn't appear to take the weekend seriously is VWBL. The DV have sent strong (but understaffed) teams away up until this year, but Ringwood & City have all but disappeared. (which is a real pity for the few guys in those leagues that really want to play)
If the city based teams want to give it up - then fine, make that decision. Leave it to the country teams to continue waht is a fantastic weekend of baseball and comraderie for them.
PS: Reggie, sorry I missed you on the weekend.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2009 13:30:41 GMT 10
Latrobe Valley, Sunraysia and North-East always approach the series with a positive attitude and still manage to have a great time. Last weekend was no exception and it really was not surprising that Latrobe Valley won Divvy One. They clearly deserved to.
I think it's fair to say that those leagues have a generally greater enthusiasm for the series because many/most of their guys don't play summer.
VWBL is one of the issues, gj. Correct. But when you consider that the VWBL has 40-45 % of all winter players in Victoria (guesstimate), we cannot pretend that a series without the VWBL involvement could constitute a "Victorian Winter Championship". It would become something like the old lightning premiership at Wangaratta - a fun weekend interrupted by some baseball. There's nothing wrong with that - if it's what the players want - as long as we do not claim that the series is anything else.
It would be great if the Carnival could somehow "remorph" as it was 30 or more years ago. But many things have changed and a miracle just won't happen in this case. My concern is that the Carnival is reinvented in such a way that it will be truly representative of winter baseball, that it will have credibility and that it will give winter players - in all leagues - something to aspire to. The "All-Star" idea is a potential way of achieving those goals.
It comes down, in the end, to what the players want and what pressure - if any - can be brought to bear by associations to have players make themselves available.
Although the "City" side dropped out a few years ago, there's been a disturbing lack of interest in some associations fielding their best side in the past few years - or even in playing. DBA did its best under the circumstances this time, DV had issues with player depth, GBA had a side mostly of kids, Bendigo has a smaller player pool, Ballarat had a group of its best players not available (either for all or part of the series) and there was no Ringwood or VIS.
And the series was in Geelong. Next year it may well be in Mildura. Lovely place to hold the series, with a progressive association that is really having a crack at developing the game. But under the current structure, it's hard to be optimistic about the quality and the number of the teams who will make the commitment.
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Post by tgonguy999 on Jun 10, 2009 13:33:03 GMT 10
first of all well done to everyone who played the weekend, i think if you look at teh results there were some very good games of baseball played and myself personally and the whole lvba team enjoyed the weekend tremendosly. It was a little bit dissapointing to see a couple of sides unable to put there best side in and i think gj is exactly right in what he is saying. We in the lv love going away on these weekends because for some it is the highest quality baseball they will be involved in and im sure its the same with other country teams, if it is taken away from us it will definatly hurt our league and im sure the other country leagues as well, but im also in favour of some sort of restructure to get the city teams keen again, im not quite sure how but im sure it can be done
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Post by gj on Jun 10, 2009 15:23:02 GMT 10
So eloquently put as usual KC. I don't disagree with anything you say, but my question is why change a great weekend for the country guys just because the city associations can't get off their ass. Either get them involved or just call the weekend the Victoria Country Champs. And, I was just old enough to get to go to Wangaratta once before my team was asked to please consider another sport. I don't remember any baseball being played?  ? |
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Post by rick on Jun 10, 2009 19:16:55 GMT 10
I think it's fair to say that those leagues have a generally greater enthusiasm for the series because many/most of their guys don't play summer. Just had a look at the LV team - only six of 15 didn't play summer last year, though three of them have done so in the past few years. I think we just like going because we have fun and get to play good baseball. |
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