Post by perfeckt on Dec 20, 2015 11:59:15 GMT 10
Good morning, Devils advocate here again. with a ramble from the jungle.
The duty of care policies will always be contentious and the heat policy is particularly so at the moment.
Moorabbin air temps are monitored and recorded on the BOM site not one kilometre from "The Farm" at the airport and updated often throughout any given hour as are the forecasting and weather warnings. It's obvious where the Rustlers would get their info from regardless of the BV by-laws.
I'm only using Cheltenham as an example here.
Local club members with a wealth of experience at their grounds are the best placed to judge whether or not that their grounds are hazardous to play on.
One club may be in a gully in the hills and bordered by trees and creeks. Another might be on the flatlands near the coast and exposed to possible cooling winds from a weather change that stubbornly refuses to travel up the line to another inland club suffering from fire breathing northerly winds.
If a 'who blinks first situation' occurs, i.e. the first to forfeit loses, then the Umpires that are empowered with another level of duty of care can make a call on the hazardous conditions just as they would for lightning or light.
Surely grown men and women can be able to make the call using modern technology and plain common sense without the meddling and blanket decision making of a governing body.
The governing body places a strongly worded advisory concerning up-coming conditions then surely we would prefer to be the final arbiters as to whether "play ball" is called or not.
My main point is that most of us have whinged, at one time or another, about the various governing bodies making unilateral decisions that we feel should be left to the clubs and players. I humbly suggest that now is one of those times where it might be convenient to cede part of that control at a club level and let 'big brother' make the decisions for us.
Playing regulations, By-Laws and duty of care and plain common sense.
A scenario.
At 1700hrs. on a Friday, BV issues a strong advisory as to playing conditions being likely to be hazardous in the next 48 hours and that the forecast is unlikely to change, as per Bureau predictions.
Everybody knows this is coming it's been the talk of the town all week.
Game day, Visitor says to Homeboy,: 'So waddaya reckon?"
Homeboy says, "It's fekkin hot and the bureau temps are off the charts but the game in the hills is underway and they might get a few percentage points up on us if we don't play. Wadda you reckon?'
V: We got a 16 year old and two 17 year old rookies playing' today and their early games were called so I don't think.....'
H: 'Let's consult with the Ump's.'
Umpire#1: It's officially too hot to play and the cool change down the coast won't be here for another 2 hours.
Ump'#2: 'Ummmmmm, let's wait for an hour.'
Players: 'Waddaya youse blokes reckon?'
S.S.: 'Is the bar open?'
C.F.: 'It's bloody hot out there.'
1.B.: 'C'mon, this is a mans game, let's play.'
S.S.: 'Is the bar open?'
P: 'I got a sore shoulder from the mid-weeker.'
C: 'I don't want ta put on all that sh!t just so I can squat in the dust and cop wild ones from that whinging bastard in this heat. Ph@ck that.'
S.S.: 'Jonno's got a pool.'
2.B.: 'And I got a few slabs in the fridge as well.'
R.F.: 'I had plans to get my 15th. hit for the season today. I say we play!'
3.B.: 'And if we don't play and I don't go home I'll be in strife.'
L.F. : (n.b. in a parallel universe, L.F is an insurance claims officer)
Umm guys?!? B.V. have an advisory out, the bom site sat's it's 57C so none of us will be covered if anyone keels over or stubs a big toe.'
S.S.: 'I'm goin' to the bar.'
1.B.: 'but the call hasn't been made yet!'
S.S.: 'I've made my own. My shout, anyone else commin'?'
2.B.: 'Hey wait for me!!'
C: 'I thought we were goin' to Jonno's pool !?!!'
Ump#1: 'Hey! Where'd all the players go???'
Ump#2: 'Ahhhh, ph@ck 'em. Let's go to the bar. You know, Occ', health and safety and all.'
The duty of care policies will always be contentious and the heat policy is particularly so at the moment.
Moorabbin air temps are monitored and recorded on the BOM site not one kilometre from "The Farm" at the airport and updated often throughout any given hour as are the forecasting and weather warnings. It's obvious where the Rustlers would get their info from regardless of the BV by-laws.
I'm only using Cheltenham as an example here.
Local club members with a wealth of experience at their grounds are the best placed to judge whether or not that their grounds are hazardous to play on.
One club may be in a gully in the hills and bordered by trees and creeks. Another might be on the flatlands near the coast and exposed to possible cooling winds from a weather change that stubbornly refuses to travel up the line to another inland club suffering from fire breathing northerly winds.
If a 'who blinks first situation' occurs, i.e. the first to forfeit loses, then the Umpires that are empowered with another level of duty of care can make a call on the hazardous conditions just as they would for lightning or light.
Surely grown men and women can be able to make the call using modern technology and plain common sense without the meddling and blanket decision making of a governing body.
The governing body places a strongly worded advisory concerning up-coming conditions then surely we would prefer to be the final arbiters as to whether "play ball" is called or not.
My main point is that most of us have whinged, at one time or another, about the various governing bodies making unilateral decisions that we feel should be left to the clubs and players. I humbly suggest that now is one of those times where it might be convenient to cede part of that control at a club level and let 'big brother' make the decisions for us.
Playing regulations, By-Laws and duty of care and plain common sense.
A scenario.
At 1700hrs. on a Friday, BV issues a strong advisory as to playing conditions being likely to be hazardous in the next 48 hours and that the forecast is unlikely to change, as per Bureau predictions.
Everybody knows this is coming it's been the talk of the town all week.
Game day, Visitor says to Homeboy,: 'So waddaya reckon?"
Homeboy says, "It's fekkin hot and the bureau temps are off the charts but the game in the hills is underway and they might get a few percentage points up on us if we don't play. Wadda you reckon?'
V: We got a 16 year old and two 17 year old rookies playing' today and their early games were called so I don't think.....'
H: 'Let's consult with the Ump's.'
Umpire#1: It's officially too hot to play and the cool change down the coast won't be here for another 2 hours.
Ump'#2: 'Ummmmmm, let's wait for an hour.'
Players: 'Waddaya youse blokes reckon?'
S.S.: 'Is the bar open?'
C.F.: 'It's bloody hot out there.'
1.B.: 'C'mon, this is a mans game, let's play.'
S.S.: 'Is the bar open?'
P: 'I got a sore shoulder from the mid-weeker.'
C: 'I don't want ta put on all that sh!t just so I can squat in the dust and cop wild ones from that whinging bastard in this heat. Ph@ck that.'
S.S.: 'Jonno's got a pool.'
2.B.: 'And I got a few slabs in the fridge as well.'
R.F.: 'I had plans to get my 15th. hit for the season today. I say we play!'
3.B.: 'And if we don't play and I don't go home I'll be in strife.'
L.F. : (n.b. in a parallel universe, L.F is an insurance claims officer)
Umm guys?!? B.V. have an advisory out, the bom site sat's it's 57C so none of us will be covered if anyone keels over or stubs a big toe.'
S.S.: 'I'm goin' to the bar.'
1.B.: 'but the call hasn't been made yet!'
S.S.: 'I've made my own. My shout, anyone else commin'?'
2.B.: 'Hey wait for me!!'
C: 'I thought we were goin' to Jonno's pool !?!!'
Ump#1: 'Hey! Where'd all the players go???'
Ump#2: 'Ahhhh, ph@ck 'em. Let's go to the bar. You know, Occ', health and safety and all.'