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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2013 16:46:00 GMT 10
Some serious interest in games this week.
Finals for some, with the pressure on at the top end of Division Two and the bottom, particularly, of Division One.
Geelong and Essendon will both be gunning for top spot. Blackburn and Cheltenham will be looking for a confidence boost but have little else to gain - especially with a final on Tuesday.
Who will be Divvy Two minor premier? Who is going to finish in eleventh in Division One?
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Post by wyatt33 on Mar 8, 2013 9:29:30 GMT 10
Not to mention the finals race still alive in sec div! With a game vs port at dandy, mulgrave have a chance to take the final spot if bonbeach struggle against springy(who did us a huge favor last week!) then it'll be a tight finish for 4th spot. If both clubs finish on equal points, how is the positions split? Run percentage, or head to head record?
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Post by fm2 on Mar 8, 2013 10:14:21 GMT 10
wyatt33 - my very quick calc (someone may correct me) is:
Either Bon or Mul lose the other gets in, both win or both lose it goes to head to head, which is 1 win to each, then it goes to fewest runs given up in those games ... which has Mul getting in by 1 run!
Bon d Mul 6-5
Mul d Bon 4-2
As I said - this is a quick calc/look at the rules.
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Post by pirates on Mar 8, 2013 10:21:59 GMT 10
Having seen the break up of games for the finals i was wondering who made the call not to have the grand final Saturday at MBP this year. It seems odd to me that you would not have this fantastic event to show case baseball on a ground that has just had 100's of thousands of $$$ spent on it via the state government.
Who makes these decisions and when were they made, apparently at the clubs insistence, which clubs?. This is a perfect opportunity to promote the sport to media outlets and draw their attention to our State facility and we? make this decision.
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Post by The Puma on Mar 8, 2013 12:48:30 GMT 10
wyatt33 - my very quick calc (someone may correct me) is: Either Bon or Mul lose the other gets in, both win or both lose it goes to head to head, which is 1 win to each, then it goes to fewest runs given up in those games ... which has Mul getting in by 1 run! Bon d Mul 6-5 Mul d Bon 4-2 As I said - this is a quick calc/look at the rules. If they both lose and Berwick win it would be a 3 way tie too. Not likely but you never know. |
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Post by fm2 on Mar 8, 2013 15:41:16 GMT 10
Now you're just messing with my mind Puma - ha!
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Post by farnt on Mar 8, 2013 15:54:07 GMT 10
What if it's washed out Puma ;-)
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Post by oldfandango on Mar 8, 2013 17:10:38 GMT 10
Well done to the ABL for the prompt delivery of the 2013/14 membership cards which arrived in the mail today, oh hang on a minute it's for the 2012/13 season and not one but two.
Great admin guys.
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Post by gj on Mar 9, 2013 15:01:26 GMT 10
Preston 10 Zip over malern.
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Post by gj on Mar 9, 2013 15:44:40 GMT 10
Bubbie complete game shut out plus single double home run. Jake ORielly big home run. Cam Deeble 3, Scott Ashton 2 for Malvern looked dangerous
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2013 20:03:11 GMT 10
Essendon smashed Cheltenham and finished on top, with the two clubs to meet again on Tuesday. Will the Bombers get choice of ground for Semi-Final One? Surely they should, and one would imagine their choice would be Altona, given the synthetic surface. Sunshine fantastic to get up in the last over Waverley, but it may not be enough if the current structure is retained for next season. In Division Two, Newport has secured the Minor Premiership and qualifies for promotion. Well done to them. Williamstown a clear second and Fitzroy a clear third. But what of fourth placing? Bonbeach and Mulgrave are level on 14-8. Both have won a game against the other, so the determination goes further than head-to-head. According to my reckoning (and fm2 earlier in this thread), Mulgrave allowed eight runs in their two meetings while Bonbeach allowed nine. This seems to give the Rebels fourth spot by one run against. Or have we missed something? www.vicsummerleague.baseball.com.au/ |
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Post by perfeckt on Mar 9, 2013 23:45:18 GMT 10
Div' 1, A Grade Essendon 'Bombers' did just that today and bombed the Cheltenham Rustler outfit at the 'Dome'. ! The 'Farm' boys had a plan but it didn't work today. Without errors from Cheltenham the loss may have meant a 4-0 loss but still a loss. The Don's won on the hill, in the field and with the bat. It may have been a dead rubber for the Rustlers but I don't think the plan included a 15-0 drubbing. The Rustlers will have the chance to see if they can pull a rabbit out of the hat (or out of Laverton) on Tuesday eve'.
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Post by pirates on Mar 10, 2013 9:28:43 GMT 10
The div 2 ladder and results has seemed to have disappeared off the BV web page any feed back why this has happened.
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Post by wyatt33 on Mar 10, 2013 9:45:40 GMT 10
Was looking for that one as well pirates! Well done to the rebels, by the way. Finals again, starting on Wednesday with a series against Newport. Looking forward to some good baseball in the coming week.
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Post by regg44 on Mar 10, 2013 10:10:49 GMT 10
kc, if I were involved with Bombers wouldn't be holding my breath about getting to pick where semi final is played, playing conditions dont say anything about that, only that venues are confirmed by Summer League. I cant see Geelong being asked to drive past Altona and travel another half hour plus to Latrobe. BTW I hope they do as I would much prefer to go to Latrobe, but cant see it happening.
Pirates, couldn't agree with you more about not having the Div 1 and 2 Grand Finals as double header (or double headers if both go to 3 games), really good days in the past few years
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Post by oldnotstupid on Mar 10, 2013 19:10:32 GMT 10
Surely, is this a joke. Essendon take out top position and they are denied the option of selecting the venue ? For the last X amount of years it was always deemed that the top side got the choice of selecting venue ie Altona or Latrobe. Yesterday Essendon replaced Geelong at the top of the Div 1 ladder. BV had several weeks ago asked about their intentions if they did in turn take out 1st position. BV were informed of the preference in that case would be that they would select Altona. Now it appears on the BV website that Ess VS Chelt has been scheduled at Latrobe and Blackburn would be forced to play at Geelong's 2nd home ground. (their main mid weeks ground) Way to handicap Blackburn. Thats equivalent to forcing Blackburn to play the 1st 2 playoff games at Geelong home grounds. Whomever is responsible for this abomination, tell me it was a misprint, you can't be serious.  (Edited "to protect the innocent") Shame Baseball Victoria Shame |
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Post by The Puma on Mar 10, 2013 20:30:28 GMT 10
Division 2 seconds Grand Final is listed at St kilda next week. Is this even possible with with Grand Prix on?
GRAND FINAL ST KILDA versus BERWICK St Kilda
2.00 PM
Sunday 17 March
PRELIMINARY FINAL WILLIAMSTOWN 4 lost to BERWICK 7
FIRST SEMI-FINAL FITZROY lost to BERWICK
SECOND SEMI-FINAL WILLIAMSTOWN 7 lost to ST KILDA 9
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Post by oldracer on Mar 10, 2013 20:34:08 GMT 10
"Blackburn would be forced to play at Geelong's 2nd home ground. (their main mid weeks ground" forced?  I would have thought 2nd placing would have the call over 3rd on the ladder, has always been the case in my time and to insinuate anything regarding the makeup of the SL panel and their leanings is so far out of line that you need a holiday tool, slap yurself over ya head with ya keyboard and go to bed........ |
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Post by oldracer on Mar 10, 2013 20:42:05 GMT 10
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Post by The Puma on Mar 10, 2013 20:50:31 GMT 10
Another interesting scenario is that Fitzroy are scheduled to play game 3 at home on the Sunday should it go that far yet their thirds are listed for a home grand final. Given that the seconds GF may be moved to Berwick according to the rules where does the thirds GF get played?
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Post by thehotcorner on Mar 10, 2013 20:57:22 GMT 10
Another interesting scenario is that Fitzroy are scheduled to play game 3 at home on the Sunday should it go that far yet their thirds are listed for a home grand final. Given that the seconds GF may be moved to Berwick according to the rules where does the thirds GF get played? Neutral ground, say Preston/LaTrobe. |
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Post by oldnotstupid on Mar 10, 2013 20:57:54 GMT 10
" forced? I would have thought 2nd placing would have the call over 3rd on the ladder, So by your reply I take it you agree. Positions dictate pecking order. 2nd having the call over 3rd is one thing. 2 having the call over 1 is nonsensical. |
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Post by stk09 on Mar 10, 2013 21:31:21 GMT 10
Division 2 seconds Grand Final is listed at St kilda next week. Is this even possible with with Grand Prix on? GRAND FINAL ST KILDA versus BERWICK St Kilda 2.00 PM Sunday 17 March PRELIMINARY FINAL WILLIAMSTOWN 4 lost to BERWICK 7 FIRST SEMI-FINAL FITZROY lost to BERWICK SECOND SEMI-FINAL WILLIAMSTOWN 7 lost to ST KILDA 9 Yeah not a chance Puma. Albert Park is closed to all tenants from Midnight tonight til Tuesday the 19th. It will not be played at St.Kilda. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2013 21:46:49 GMT 10
Division 2 seconds Grand Final is listed at St kilda next week. Is this even possible with with Grand Prix on? GRAND FINAL ST KILDA versus BERWICK St Kilda 2.00 PM Sunday 17 March PRELIMINARY FINAL WILLIAMSTOWN 4 lost to BERWICK 7 FIRST SEMI-FINAL FITZROY lost to BERWICK SECOND SEMI-FINAL WILLIAMSTOWN 7 lost to ST KILDA 9 Puma, if you have taken this from my pages offering an "overview" of the finals series, then it would be best to follow the disclaimer. The official Summer League result pages (Competition Management) are the ones that should be followed to get the latest on where and when games are scheduled. The above is not a BV stuff up. It was me trying to get a head start with so much happening over the next couple of weeks. Think I'll just back off now until all venues are finalised by the powers that be.  |
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Post by oldnotstupid on Mar 10, 2013 22:18:06 GMT 10
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Post by wako on Mar 12, 2013 11:49:39 GMT 10
Altona is a "Geelong home ground"? Oh, my sides.
A "home ground" that Geelong has no control over, takes nothing from the bar or canteen therein, does not practice on, has none of its own gear or facilities at, is a 45-55 minute drive away, and which is used for Geelong midweek "home" games only as a compromise reached by clubs collectively so that neither Geelong nor its opposition need to travel unnecessarily far midweek. It's better than travelling 90 minutes each way on a Tuesday night - that's the only "homely" thing about it.
Altona is a home ground for the Aces and for BV, not Geelong.
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Post by doubleplay on Mar 14, 2013 6:30:13 GMT 10
Not sure where to put this, but it did happen in week 22. In discussion heard that two ford cars where put in for a service and returned with a $12000.00 bill which was paid. Nice to hear the baseball money is being wisely spent. My last service was only $300.00. Would be interested if this is true or not as it sounds like the mechanic could afford to sponsor a team or two charging that much for a service.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2013 8:45:33 GMT 10
$12k ? and "it did happen" ?
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Post by oldmanriver on Mar 14, 2013 12:03:20 GMT 10
authentic, only went to the baseball last sunday morning and saw a ripper U/18 game between Doncaster and Cheltenham and also heard the same, $12k and paid without a blink of an eyelid. I would be interested to see if there is an outcome or at least somebody who knows better.
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I would have thought 2nd placing would have the call over 3rd on the ladder, has always been the case in my time and to insinuate anything regarding the makeup of the SL panel and their leanings is so far out of line that you need a holiday tool, slap yurself over ya head with ya keyboard and go to bed........
