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Post by bushman on Nov 18, 2012 17:33:29 GMT 10
Pirates over Blackburn 6-5 I think was the score. Win was set up by a 4 run 3rd against Adam Bright. The Orioles did rally back but Preston was able to keep the advantage.
8 solid innings by Mitch Ley led the way with Aaron Petri and Masa Endo doing the work in the 9th to close it out. Blackburn did have bases loaded with 1 out in the 9th. But Masa was able to get a strikeout followed by a fly out to shut the game down.
Controversial play in the bottom of the 8th with a collision between the Orioles 2nd baseman and a pirates runner half way down the 2nd base line. Fortunately the call made had no effect in the final result.
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Post by perfeckt on Nov 18, 2012 17:58:51 GMT 10
Div. 1, 1st.'s Sandringham in a decisive win over Cheltenham.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2012 18:18:24 GMT 10
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Post by olteyemr on Nov 18, 2012 18:44:34 GMT 10
WBC site - twitter reporting: Wildcats 10 v Dragons 7 after 14 innings not sure if that is a final score or not... anyone out there, care to confirm?
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Post by gj on Nov 18, 2012 19:07:53 GMT 10
After looking at the photos at the end of KC's summerleague report, I have finally found a uniform that makes the Werribee masters outfit look outstanding.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2012 19:21:01 GMT 10
Yep, there's a bit of colour happening there. May there be more of it......
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Post by olteyemr on Nov 18, 2012 21:42:05 GMT 10
Divi. 1 waverley 10 v doncaster 8 in 14 innings - confirmed
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Post by wako on Nov 19, 2012 6:28:05 GMT 10
Good to see John "Chopper" Pate back on the diamond and behind the dish for Essendon's 4s, after a quite serious injury a couple of winters ago catching A Grade for Bacchus Marsh.
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Post by regg44 on Nov 19, 2012 6:55:34 GMT 10
Pirates over Blackburn 6-5 I think was the score. Win was set up by a 4 run 3rd against Adam Bright. The Orioles did rally back but Preston was able to keep the advantage. 8 solid innings by Mitch Ley led the way with Aaron Petri and Masa Endo doing the work in the 9th to close it out. Blackburn did have bases loaded with 1 out in the 9th. But Masa was able to get a strikeout followed by a fly out to shut the game down. Controversial play in the bottom of the 8th with a collision between the Orioles 2nd baseman and a pirates runner half way down the 2nd base line. Fortunately the call made had no effect in the final result. Not sure why you would call the play controversial bushman. Runner going from 1st to 2nd collides with 2nd baseman as he is moving to the ball, simple rule of baseball here. Runner needed to be more alert and avoid the fielder. Umpires got it absolutely right. In any event good game of baseball and Preston deserved the win.
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Post by eckersley43 on Nov 19, 2012 11:31:04 GMT 10
Good call Regg44!
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Post by pirates on Nov 19, 2012 12:43:53 GMT 10
call was right, where maybe the confusion/controversy may have come is because runner felt the second baseman stepped back into him although runner should not have been near him. No over reaction from anybody umps made the call between them and the game went on in a tight game and a great one to watch. By the way the umps did a great job all day.
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Post by philniekro on Nov 20, 2012 8:56:59 GMT 10
On a different not, traveled out to Altona last nite, paid my 7 bucks and asked for a coffee, white and none...sorry, we havent got any milk...WTF...come on guys, this is bordering on ridiculous....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2012 9:18:28 GMT 10
On a different not, traveled out to Altona last nite, paid my 7 bucks and asked for a coffee, white and none...sorry, we havent got any milk...WTF...come on guys, this is bordering on ridiculous.... Its not 'bordering' it is (ridiculous) mate. I like playing a few games a year at MBP BUT BV make us play Masters games out there under some arrangement (presumably to do with a catering contract !) where there must be double-headers played at that ground regardless of how many problems it causes clubs/teams and this sort of crap goes on !
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Post by wyatt33 on Nov 20, 2012 9:50:18 GMT 10
So travelling to MBP is an issue for you is it? Just asking ....
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Post by matjaz27 on Nov 20, 2012 10:16:05 GMT 10
Drinking coffee at a Masters game, must play for one of the toffy clubs. What happened to the mandatory beer or 2.
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Post by gj on Nov 20, 2012 10:44:09 GMT 10
Did you actually read what Authentic wrote Wyatt?
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Post by farnt on Nov 20, 2012 10:44:40 GMT 10
You must have been scoring Phil...only scores drink coffee at baseball games don't they?
Fishing on a Tuesday morning Wyatt?
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Post by wyatt33 on Nov 20, 2012 11:03:23 GMT 10
If I get a strike.....well worth it! Looks like I'm in luck
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2012 11:32:09 GMT 10
If I get a strike.....well worth it! Looks like I'm in luck Nup - it was up and outside and I didnt swing (and you 'walked' Evo earlier in the inning as well) !
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Post by oldmanriver on Nov 20, 2012 13:50:07 GMT 10
Watched duelling imports on the weekend for a while, would have rathered have watched two up and coming duelling Locals. I have been wondering how clubs would go without a pitching imports. Who would be good and who would be bad?
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Post by aueagle30 on Nov 20, 2012 14:07:40 GMT 10
OMR, based on last years stats in Division One, most teams with imports were 'bad' and most without were 'good'... of the 12 teams, seven had imports... of those seven, only two finished in the top six (Geelong & Melbourne)... five of the bottom six teams had import pitchers.
Restricting clubs use of import pitching would increase the gap between the top and bottom clubs.
That said, a competition like Division Two that plays only one game per week, managers should be self-enforcing pitching restrictions on all pitchers (not just imports) to ensure all pitchers are getting a chance to develop.
Whether a starting pitcher is Australian or a non-national, if he throws 100+ every week, other pitchers are missing development opportunities.
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Post by willo on Nov 20, 2012 20:49:21 GMT 10
After looking at the photos at the end of KC's summerleague report, I have finally found a uniform that makes the Werribee masters outfit look outstanding. Your not having a crack at our uniforms there are you gj?
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Post by Game On on Nov 20, 2012 22:17:02 GMT 10
I think that all clubs should work hard on developing young pitchers. We bring out an import for our club, but we use them to help our young pitchers. They are tapped for all the knowledge that they have to help coach the kids. Plus our import and young pitchers share the pitching duties throughout the year so they are not throwing every game. There is actually a roatation in place to ensure that the young guys get a start, or make a relief appearance. I think that our young pitcher has more wins than our import at this stage. I still think that imports play an important part of development of the game here in Aus.
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Post by 6for8 on Nov 21, 2012 1:04:21 GMT 10
Interesting stuff in regards to the (over)use of imports. I ran these numbers for division 2, and while it is early and incorporates only the submitted stats prior to the weekend, some trends seem to have begun to reveal themselfs.
A total of 700 submitted innings have been thrown. Of them, 223.6 of those have been by non-nationals, or 31.94%. If you remove the qualifiable innings by the four division 2 teams not employing non-nationals; non-nationals have pitched 49.18% of innings for their combined club totals. This figure is also influenced by those imports that aren't primarily pitchers or may have arrived late. So take that into account.
Non-national innings pitched % by club. Berwick City - 54.23% Chelsea - 71.89% Fitzroy - 25% Moorabbin - 13.79% Mulgrave - 88.88% Port Melbourne - 22.41% Springvale - 38.98% St. Kilda - 79.67%
innings leader % of Clubs with no non-national Bonbeach - 37.67% Newport - 43.63% Werribee - 70.78% Williamstown - 37.04%
Personally, I don't believe bringing out an import gives a significant advantage to a team, and it does reduce the amount of blow-outs and perhaps increase the number of upsets, balancing the competition in general. However, I do think if clubs use a non-national to pitch a hefty amount of innings, it only increases the need for that club to rely on an import the following year, and the next, and so on and so forth. Which I guess is fine too, if clubs are happy to do that. From a broader baseball prospective though, it may be cause for some concern. It will be interesting to check back on these %'s as the year progresses.
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Post by gj on Nov 21, 2012 7:54:35 GMT 10
6 for, you are way too smart for a left handed pitcher - are you sure you are not a closet right hander..
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2012 9:03:24 GMT 10
GJ, agreed on 6for.
However, in regards to the baseball uni's, I think the Titans uni's are still better looking than what I've seen of the Bendigo East ones...
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Post by wako on Nov 21, 2012 10:03:00 GMT 10
I like the Titans' uniform. I assumed gj must have been referring to St. Kilda's alternate strip.
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Post by aueagle30 on Nov 21, 2012 10:14:53 GMT 10
6for8, a really great post... and good to see most clubs still sharing the opportunity around.
Equally interesting, of the top six teams in Division Two, only two have relied on non-national pitching for more than half their innings (including Mulgrave at 54%)... five of the bottom six teams are relying on the use of a non-national pitcher to varying extents... the sixth team is relying heavily on one pitcher (Werribee - 70.78%), suggesting they need additional pitching support.
While still early and these trends may change, your stats are showing non-national pitchers allow weaker clubs to close the gap and remain competitive, rather than pushing the stronger teams further out of reach... removing the ability for clubs to use these resources would only make the gap greater.
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Post by oldmanriver on Nov 21, 2012 11:47:22 GMT 10
Me thinks that 6 has just self appointed himself as watcher of the pitching figures. I'm not sure, but once upon a time there was a limit and from my understanding, the limit has been removed. Perhaps, we should look at local talent having to throw a greater percentage with the imports filling in the balance. I just feel that it is imperative that we develop Aussie talent ahead of paying for imports that at times can retard the learning of young arms. Just a thought. I must admit, the talent pool of each individual club does vary a large amount, but I just feel that it would be better to have a real reflection of where you are rather than having padded figures on the back of an import. It then might just shake a few clubs up and start to protect and develop their own pitching strengths from within. Just another thought. This is just one persons opinion.
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