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Post by MWBL PRES on Aug 26, 2012 10:43:48 GMT 10
Hi guys, after a wet and very wintery season we have come to the pointy end of the year. Congratulations to all those teams that have made it through, and comiserations to those who did not quite make it. From the MWBL, thanks to all those players, managers, supporters, volunteers, managers, coaches and players that have put in the time and effort to make this season (hopefully) enjoyable and somewhat successful.
With senior finals starting this week, and junior GF's also being played, a quick reminder of the times and formats.
Junior GF's will be posted on the website, and we are hoping for a dryish week and weekend to get these played. I would encourage all senior guys and girls to get to the junior finals and see the talent that is coming through (to take your spots!!)
For this reason, the semi-finals are ALL single games starting at 1.30pm. Seeing as we have 22 games to get through, the formula for ground allocation is as such. Highest placed team (finished 1st or 3rd) will host the semi final. In a situation whereby a club has multiple teams in this situation (i.e. GMBC) the 2nd choice will be a neutral venue. If this isn't an option (maybe location) the lower placed team will host if their ground is available. Just a reminder for those saying "why couldn't we play here, or there...??". Not all grounds are available for us to fixture games at for varying reasons, so we make the best of what IS available.
Weeks 2 & 3 will be double headers in A Grade / B Grade / C Grade / D Grade. The grades below this will remain as singles.
The MWBL pennant committee had a marathon meeting last week where many subjects were discussed, and a revised set of finals match conditions formulated. These have been sent to all clubs via your club nominated contact. We have asked for any response by 5pm on Monday 27th August. For those interested, please contact your club. We will not put these on the website at the moments as it may cause some confusion if changes are made after Monday's deadline.
Please ensure players selected are eligible to play in the grade selected, and queries can be sent to the MWBL administrator or pennant committee. If you make a mistake, the penalty could be loss of game and that is something none of us want to happen.
As for locations for the next 3 weeks. I am sure today and tomorrow we will receive heaps of calls and emails asking about venues. We can only confirm once that match cards are in and the correct scores are verified. It is amazing how many incorrect scores are phoned in (no blame), but with so many tight grades this year, points and percentage are important to decide teams and venues. Please be patient, we don't want to post incorrectly and then have to scramble to advise of changes.
I think that's enough from me......thank god I can hear you all saying!!
Again, good luck for the next 3 weeks for all senior teams playing finals and also to the juniors in their GF's.
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Post by turtle06 on Aug 26, 2012 13:56:10 GMT 10
Hi guys, after a wet and very wintery season we have come to the pointy end of the year. Congratulations to all those teams that have made it through, and comiserations to those who did not quite make it. From the MWBL, thanks to all those players, managers, supporters, volunteers, managers, coaches and players that have put in the time and effort to make this season (hopefully) enjoyable and somewhat successful. I guessed that all games were umpired by the clubs....its just annoying to read this....I guess you don't need umpires??? |
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Post by MWBL PRES on Aug 26, 2012 18:33:58 GMT 10
My apologies to Turtle 06 and the other appointed umpires for not thanking them for their efforts also. My post was meant to inform the clubs and players about the finals. If you or any of the other MWBL umpires took this as a snub, it was not meant in this way.
Normally the thanks for the league are at the GF's when we do our presentation and no doubt at your end of season dinner. Was there anything else in the post I need to apologise for?
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Post by The Puma on Aug 26, 2012 18:37:39 GMT 10
Oldmanriver was right all along. Well i'll be!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2012 20:18:34 GMT 10
Hi guys, after a wet and very wintery season we have come to the pointy end of the year. Congratulations to all those teams that have made it through, and comiserations to those who did not quite make it. From the MWBL, thanks to all those players, managers, supporters, volunteers, managers, coaches and players that have put in the time and effort to make this season (hopefully) enjoyable and somewhat successful. I guessed that all games were umpired by the clubs....its just annoying to read this....I guess you don't need umpires??? It's not always about the umpires! |
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Post by eckersley43 on Aug 26, 2012 20:19:09 GMT 10
The PRES has shown support and encouragement towards umpires both as a player, manager and official over many years.Guess it's the old thing about "thank yous"..if you miss anyone, then someone takes offence.
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Post by Marshy on Aug 27, 2012 9:09:03 GMT 10
Was there anything else in the post I need to apologise for? Yeah how about you apologise for having the best run, closest competition, across all divisions, I have been involved in for many years. All this despite the challenges of this being one of coldest, wettest winters for decades. The fact that results are posted on Saturday night, almost straight after the last game is an outrage. I am disgusted that as a player in B Res, I have not had to umpire ONCE this season, there has been official ones every week. I think it's a disgrace that you get on here and clarify the League's standing on matters of interest to clubs in a timely, articulate, and succinct manner. You and your team should be ashamed of yourself Leggy. |
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Post by wyatt33 on Aug 27, 2012 9:50:39 GMT 10
But thanks to players and managers the most!
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Post by bobby on Aug 27, 2012 9:58:20 GMT 10
Hey Pres,
I am hoping you can explain something for me regarding the finals?
Throughout the season teams play for 2hrs and that is how a team makes the finals, by being one of the top four teams for 2hrs during the season. Why then do game situations change from playing 2hr to going to 7 or 9 innings?
I just don't get why the entire system changes just because it is a final, teams have managed their teams to play for 2hrs all season but it becomes a totally different game when it goes for 7 or 9 innings.
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Post by stuartcapel on Aug 27, 2012 10:09:08 GMT 10
But thanks to players and managers the most! I once gave an MVP in seniors to a junior player who got up on Presentation night and said "I'd like to thank my parents...especially my mum and my dad..." ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2012 10:19:45 GMT 10
Im with you Marshy ;-)
Bobby I expect its about having the grounds and time available to do so.
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Post by freddy72 on Aug 27, 2012 10:31:12 GMT 10
Marshy - agreed, Leggy and the committee do a good job under difficult circumstances
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Post by bobby on Aug 27, 2012 10:33:05 GMT 10
Authentic, it shouldn't really change the entire format though, teams have been playing for 2hrs so they know who to use their pitchers etc. 9 innings might need another 2 pitchers which some teams might not have?
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Post by freddy72 on Aug 27, 2012 10:35:59 GMT 10
Bobby - finals will test the depth of some of the clubs playing, particularly pitching. should be interesting!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2012 11:13:43 GMT 10
I am happy to stand corrected but I gather it is 9-inning games in A and B Grade and the rest are 7 inning games and that makes sense to me A Grade deserve to play 9 if it can happen and any team in B Grade needs to have the pitching depth to go 9 if they want to play A Grade the following year. for the rest of us 7 innings or 2.5 hours is plenty I agree.
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Post by bobby on Aug 27, 2012 12:48:29 GMT 10
I think you are missing my point Authentic, it doesn't matter in A grade or B grade if you can play 9 innings unless you make into the finals...the team that finished 5th doesn't need to play 9 innings at all. I just don't get the change in format as the teams that have finished on top have been the best teams for 2hrs throughout the season...it is a different ball game once you have to play 9 innings.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2012 12:56:48 GMT 10
I think you are missing my point Authentic, it doesn't matter in A grade or B grade if you can play 9 innings unless you make into the finals...the team that finished 5th doesn't need to play 9 innings at all. I just don't get the change in format as the teams that have finished on top have been the best teams for 2hrs throughout the season...it is a different ball game once you have to play 9 innings. Im not missing your point, its just that we have different views and thats fine. |
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Post by oldmanriver on Aug 27, 2012 13:16:11 GMT 10
The DBA solved that problem a couple of years ago, A1, B1, & A3 all play 9 innings games and the rest 2hr games with the exception in finals by having the 5 minute rule introduced. This came about after a A Reserve game went 16 or 17 innings and delayed the start of the A Grade by about 1 hour. So apart from the 3 mention grades, A2,3,4 B2 & 3 are all 2hr with 5 minute rule in finals. No different than the season.
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Post by stuartcapel on Aug 27, 2012 13:41:34 GMT 10
It was seventeen innings. Seventeen $#*)%(@ innings!!
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Post by oldmanriver on Aug 27, 2012 13:55:35 GMT 10
Well Stuart. It didn"t worry how long it lasted as the Presidents lunch that year lasted until the end of the game which the norm for many years, The free beers put on by the DBA that year just lasted a bit longer. Yay. Now we don't even have a lunch anymore. Not yay.
If I remember, Steve Babidge threw the whole 17.
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Post by wyatt33 on Aug 27, 2012 14:39:47 GMT 10
What! 7 or 9 innings! I can't throw for that long....bloody hell! Anyone got any horse tranquilizer?
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Post by MWBL PRES on Aug 27, 2012 15:59:04 GMT 10
Hi guys. Finals match conditions, there have been a few changes mooted (how many posts have mooted in them!!) and time and length of games are amongst them. There is varying opinions as to what we should do, and in my humble opinion, A grade and B grade, although we play 2hrs during the year, are our premier grades and I would like to see these 2 finals series remain 9 innings. As for all the other grades, we have presented to your clubs a proposal for a 2hr with 5 minute or 9 innings (whichever comes first). Single games would play until a result so no time limit for the 5 minute rule. For double header games, the first game (reserve grade) would be the same BUT...there would need to be a 30minute conclusion rule. If not, we would run the risk of a game with extra innings taking more than the 30 minutes, and therefore make the late game hard to conclude. But what about the lights I hear you say.....2 of our 3 grounds are supplimentary lights only, so in total darkness we may not be permitted to continue play. The other option is all single games but this removes re-entry from A/B/C grades, and also stretches us for grounds. Anyway, this is just one section of the rules and possible changes we have presented. Depending on your clubs response depends on what is put in place. All will be revealed at 8.00pm tomorrow night.
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Post by MF on Aug 27, 2012 16:08:20 GMT 10
[...]The other option is all single games but this removes re-entry from A/B/C grades, and also stretches us for grounds. [...] Personally, I like the idea of A/A-res and B/B-res double headers... however does it really seem appropriate to use the re-entry rule during finals? What do others think? I guess it helps clubs that have both 1s and 2s in finals avoid having to make invidious selection decisions. Mind you, it could make for memorable day for the right player: win a flag with the magoos then back it up by re-entering to help the ones win! |
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Post by perfeckt on Aug 27, 2012 20:35:41 GMT 10
That 17 innings game pitched by Steve Babbidge for Cheltenham was incredible and as a spectator the excitement level was incredible it fired up the crowd and the players for the game that followed to fever pitch.
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Post by Buddha on Aug 28, 2012 6:39:02 GMT 10
That 17 innings game pitched by Steve Babbidge for Cheltenham was incredible and as a spectator the excitement level was incredible it fired up the crowd and the players for the game that followed to fever pitch. And if i remember rightly Richo came in for short relief and ended up throwing 9 |
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Post by ec on Aug 30, 2012 9:45:49 GMT 10
... All will be revealed at 8.00pm tomorrow night. Any word on what the official match conditions for finals are? |
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