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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2012 23:33:49 GMT 10
Seems the skies may clear somewhat for a crucial round of games in most leagues....
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Post by oldmanriver on Aug 10, 2012 7:42:46 GMT 10
Well people, what the DBA have this week is what some people would call a defining round. The four in both A and B Grade could be decided or left wide open for another round. Let's see what could unfold. A. Grade Berwick v Cheltenham Berwick needs to be tough and push the Rustlers all the way. The Dodgers are always tough at home and need the win to stay in touch with the four. But with that said, I feel that Chelt will get up bu 3 to 5 runs. Dandenong v Frankston Great effort by the Angels last week against Cheltenham, they need to consolidate that effort this week and put away the Tomatoes. However, the Tommies are a bit of a suprise packet and could cause the upset of the round. My gut feeling says the Angels by 2 or 3 runs. Dingley v Bonbeach. Dingley should by rights take this game comfortably, but the young Bluejays have been pesky as they go through their rebuilding phase. Everything really does point to a Dingley victory by about 5 to 7 runs. B. Grade Chelsea v Pakenham Not much to be said here, the Dolphins are wishing that this season would end now. The Pumas has a bit of fine tuning to do and this game can be the chance to do this very nicely. The paumas should take this game by 7 to 10 runs. Moorabbin v Dingley. This is the real deal in finals deciding games. The Panthers drop this and it brings Dingley to within 1/2 a game of the four with two to play. The Panthers at home should have just enough firepowerat the plate and should get of the Dingley young guns by 2 to 4 runs. OGH v Dandenong Well, what can be said about the Ageing Travelling Willburies that hasn't already been said this week. But I feel the the Angels will deflate the joy and happiness the TW's have experienced the last couple of weeks and keep building the finals assault with a comfortable win with the margin around 5 to 9 runs. Oakleigh v Boneo After getting embarressed by the Travelling Willburies, Boneo will be looking for a bit of redemption and the Oakleigh boys look like they will cop it from Cam and the boys. Oakleigh will be tough but Boneo will just have too many guns waiting ti fire with finals just around the corner. Boneo by 5 or 6 runs.
All have a good weekend. Let's hope the rain eases up and goes away. And may you all be winners this weekend.
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Post by wyatt33 on Aug 10, 2012 13:04:56 GMT 10
Skies may be clear, but how will the grounds fare? What's Ross straw like this time of year....anyone?
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Post by perfeckt on Aug 10, 2012 13:39:32 GMT 10
I went there for the first time last Saturday w'33 and the grounds were in excellent condition. Watching the game from the terrace in the sunshine wasn't half bad either.
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Post by The Puma on Aug 10, 2012 14:42:22 GMT 10
Oakleigh have forfeited their 1s but not the 2s. wtf?
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Post by jc on Aug 10, 2012 15:40:23 GMT 10
Sorry!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2012 16:19:29 GMT 10
Im led to believe that the NC Rebels D2 Home Game Vs Footscray is off as is the Under 15s.
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Post by skit on Aug 10, 2012 17:02:28 GMT 10
D2 game has been moved to footscray
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Post by farnt on Aug 10, 2012 18:54:59 GMT 10
Loads of cancellations across the league so check the MWBL site before venturing out (particularly juniors).
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Post by rammo on Aug 10, 2012 19:14:02 GMT 10
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2012 19:26:47 GMT 10
Excellent site and process - well done.
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Post by The Jack on Aug 11, 2012 10:40:06 GMT 10
Washouts hurt the chances of teams, no more so than at this stage of the season. The weather gods are either smiling at you as you gain the handy 1 point or laughing at you as they take a potential win away. (sorry for the late one btw, log in issues last night)
A Grade We know that Heathmont and Knox are already washed out, but other games, at this stage, are going ahead. There are another couple of big games, so here we go.
GMBC vs Ringwood - Could be MOTR, but I think there is another contest with a lot riding on it. Monty are back into good form, Ringwood are going well. with Knox already gaining a point for a draw should Monty lose they will be equal on points but Monty have a far superior percentage. A win will give them handy breathing space with two weeks to go. Where is this game won or lost? Pitching. The team who has their pitching staff on will win, both side have guys capable of shutting teams down and have hitter capable of destroying teams. If one team has a pitcher ready to go they win, simple right?
Greensborough vs Croydon - In a game that means little in the context of finals (neither side can make it) there is a fair bit riding on a win for Croydon. Should NB and Melb Uni win 2 games in their last 3 and Croydon not win any, then Croydon will drop to bottom. I don't think they will win today, but a win over the next two weeks is a must.
Heathmont vs Knox - WASH OUT - Disappointing for Knox as they need to play games and win to jump over Monty. If Monty win today, then Knox will need to win their last two games and monty not win another for the season. Heathmont now cannot be dropped out of the top four.
North Balwyn vs Melbourne University - MATCH OF THE ROUND - Yes, the battle of the bottom two. If NB win, Melb Uni will finish bottom. If Melb Uni win, they will still need another win to jump NB, but with two weeks left anything can happen. I think NB can shut the door on Melb Uni today, neither side scores much, but NB have a better pitching rotation (IMHO).
Research vs Watsonia - A david vs Goliath type situation here with Research looking so strong and Watsonia rebuilding with some younger players (that have been around for a while now, watch out next season). Research win today they get top spot and the minor premiership. I think they are flag favourites and win show that today.
B Grade After the controversy of last week, much rides on the outcomes of the last few weeks. There is almost only two teams we need to talk about, because a loss for either FH or Ring would allow the other to take 4th spot.
La Trobe University vs Forest Hill - MATCH OF THE ROUND - the scenario for FH is simple, win and keep doing so. They cannot worry about other teams results. They should win her, but La Trobe, up until this season, were finalists and capable of knocking off any team. If the pull one out here, it will make it very difficult for FH to overtake Ringwood.
Ringwood vs Bundoora - Ring will be up and going after a good win last week. They have not played finals since entering their B Grade side, this could be their year. Bundoora would be somewhat disappointed with their season this far, a win for them against a team they have a 'healthy' rivalry with would give them some satisfaction for the season.
St. Kilda vs Essendon - A bigger and stronger outfit in St Kilda will trouble the young Essendon side, although with this funny light, hitting will be difficult.
Waverley vs Monash University - Waverley is a big chance to take 2nd spot today and they may very well keep it. Monash have found this season a little difficult again and may need to find a player or two to challenge the stronger sides in this comp next year.
Westgarth vs North Coburg Rebels - Should be MOTR, 1st vs 2nd, but too much is riding on the FH game. Westgarth have been the best side all year and even if they lose the GF, I think they have shown that they could (and probably should) apply for A Grade next season. They have lost 1 game thus far and although Rebels have only lost two, they have had 3 draws (against FH, Waverley and Ringwood and they are draws not w/o). They are going very well behind Masa, but Garth should prove too strong today.
With three weeks left, there are some huge match ups. Good luck
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Post by oboy29 on Aug 11, 2012 18:05:45 GMT 10
Monash Uni Beat Waverley in both 1s & 2s.. 2s holding on for a 12-8 win 1s getting it done 4-3 in 2 great games.
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Post by jrogers on Aug 11, 2012 18:41:58 GMT 10
We beat Bundoora today 5 - 4 after our reserves were washed out. Bundoora were happy to play the late game as the ground was and after some clean up the game started on time. Keeps us at least 1 game clear of Forest Hill at this stage. Does anyone know how they went?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2012 19:47:40 GMT 10
Top of the B Grade table clash NC Rebels Vs Westgarth @ Westgarth washed out in B and BRes.
Games called mid morning which saved a trip out and allowed a few of us to go see a few other games. 3s got beat comfortably by Footscray but a fellow Forum contributor stuck 2 out of the park I'm told.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2012 19:54:37 GMT 10
We beat Bundoora today 5 - 4 after our reserves were washed out. Bundoora were happy to play the late game as the ground was and after some clean up the game started on time. Keeps us at least 1 game clear of Forest Hill at this stage. Does anyone know how they went? Looks like FHill 13-0 over Latrobe in B Grade mate.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2012 20:07:57 GMT 10
A couple of massive results in the GBA this afternoon. Bacchus Marsh posted its first win oof the winter 4-1 over Ballarat Brewers, whose season appears in tatters after a barnstorming start, while reigning premier Guild made a statement with a strong 10-5 result over league-leading Lara Wildcats. Assured of a finals berth for the first time in many years, Deakin was scratchy at the end but held off Bellarine 7-5. Saints had A Grade bye and are bound to be enjoying their 50th celebration Coc ktail Party even more after hearing of the Brewer result. www.geelongassociation.baseball.com.au
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Post by The Puma on Aug 11, 2012 20:50:00 GMT 10
Massive thanks to the Dandy BC for lending us thier super sopper to clean up our ground for play today, I also belive they swaped thier home games back to Frankston after the washout round earlier this year. Probibly cost them a couple of K in sales.
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Post by crogers20 on Aug 11, 2012 21:31:18 GMT 10
Our second washout in three weeks without a drop of rain. If our ground was unplayable today, we shouldn't have played half our games this year, and arguably won't be able to play any more games at our ground this season. Very disillusioned with 'winter' baseball at the moment.
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Post by stockley on Aug 11, 2012 21:53:24 GMT 10
I've been told its not winter baseball... it's baseball played in winter. Direct quote from an umpire. Load of nuts .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2012 22:43:10 GMT 10
Our second washout in three weeks without a drop of rain. If our ground was unplayable today, we shouldn't have played half our games this year, and arguably won't be able to play any more games at our ground this season. Very disillusioned with 'winter' baseball at the moment. Cam, do you think if your Bres played, they may have done alot of damage to the ground causing it 'unplayable' costing the B grade a spot in finals? Maybe look at the bigger picture.
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Post by gj on Aug 12, 2012 7:52:37 GMT 10
TJ, Why can't Greensborough make the finals. Ladder says they are a game out with 2 winnable games to come.
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Post by theeck on Aug 12, 2012 8:13:49 GMT 10
Massive thanks to the Dandy BC for lending us thier super sopper to clean up our ground for play today, I also belive they swaped thier home games back to Frankston after the washout round earlier this year. Probibly cost them a couple of K in sales. Only the A3 and A4 games were moved back to Frankston.
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Post by The Jack on Aug 12, 2012 9:52:29 GMT 10
TJ, Why can't Greensborough make the finals. Ladder says they are a game out with 2 winnable games to come. My mistake, Greens are a game and a half out, but GMBC play two games they will likely win. A win or a draw by Monty and Greens can't make it. Sorry With 'Duty of Care' being thrown around everywhere, how many games will play? I can see a couple games that will need a result coming up but will they play? At this stage there is going to be rain/showers from Tuesday, the worst day being Firday with 5 - 10mm. Showers on Sat. (source willyweather.com.au)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2012 11:51:33 GMT 10
'Winter baseball' & 'Duty of Care' makes for an interesting thread I reckon.
What is the general concensus as to when a ground is or isnt fit to play on IN WINTER ?
When there is pooled water evident (infield/outfield/surrounds?) ? When there is 'sloshy' shifting mud/infield dirt in the infield or outfield ? When the ball is too wet to grip, even after a wipe of a towel ? When it is raining at all or is light rain OK for while ?
More interesting is does the 'rule of thumb' change in Summer - if so why ?
Us Winter baseballer are a hardly lot and we almost always want to play but at what point should that decison be taken impartially using the duty of care approach or should it be taken that if two teams want to play they agree and inform the umpire and proceed accordingly and given they have wanted to play (and were not directed to play) there is no 'duty of care' issue ?
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Post by gj on Aug 12, 2012 13:42:58 GMT 10
Also my stuff up -I thought they played a final 5 and were only a game out.
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Post by ah24 on Aug 12, 2012 13:47:25 GMT 10
Our second washout in three weeks without a drop of rain. If our ground was unplayable today, we shouldn't have played half our games this year, and arguably won't be able to play any more games at our ground this season. Very disillusioned with 'winter' baseball at the moment. Cam, do you think if your Bres played, they may have done alot of damage to the ground causing it 'unplayable' costing the B grade a spot in finals? Maybe look at the bigger picture. Whoswingsit: maybe you need to look a picture bigger than B grade. Given the conditions of the grounds that Cam was referring to (I was at both of them aswell) under the new 'duty of care' push the MWBL next year will consist of about 5 rounds because after that just about every ground is going to be 'unsafe'. As for yesterdays 'wash out' the ground was used for juniors, however deemed unplayable for the first senior game, but somehow was good enough for the late game.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2012 14:23:12 GMT 10
Cam, do you think if your Bres played, they may have done alot of damage to the ground causing it 'unplayable' costing the B grade a spot in finals? Maybe look at the bigger picture. Whoswingsit: maybe you need to look a picture bigger than B grade. Given the conditions of the grounds that Cam was referring to (I was at both of them aswell) under the new 'duty of care' push the MWBL next year will consist of about 5 rounds because after that just about every ground is going to be 'unsafe'. As for yesterdays 'wash out' the ground was used for juniors, however deemed unplayable for the first senior game, but somehow was good enough for the late game. Yea I did see you there Adam. It is perfectly acceptable not to play the early game So the late game players can do some works on the ground to get the field playable.How would your B grade team feel if you guys played and ruined the ground costing them a spot in finals and showing the league how strong the Ringwood Saints are doing in B and A grade.
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Post by ah24 on Aug 12, 2012 15:15:50 GMT 10
Yea I did see you there Adam. It is perfectly acceptable not to play the early game So the late game players can do some works on the ground to get the field playable.How would your B grade team feel if you guys played and ruined the ground costing them a spot in finals and showing the league how strong the Ringwood Saints are doing in B and A grade. I am not trying to be rude when I say this, but you have missed what both Cameron and I are talking about. There is going to be an issue for the remainer of the year based entirely on whether or not you get an umpire allocated to your game - no umpire (game more than likely goes ahead), umpire (flip a coin). The ground was no worse that it had been at any stage this year and therefore if we played the early game we couldn't see why the late game would be effected. What is frustrating is the umpire turns up for the early game 15 minutes before the game and say the ground is unfit for play. Why is there is no opportunity given to work on the ground so we can get a 65m min game in, if the umpire believe that some work on the ground will help the late game go ahead.
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Post by ah24 on Aug 12, 2012 15:20:55 GMT 10
Yea I did see you there Adam. It is perfectly acceptable not to play the early game So the late game players can do some works on the ground to get the field playable.How would your B grade team feel if you guys played and ruined the ground costing them a spot in finals and showing the league how strong the Ringwood Saints are doing in B and A grade. As far our our B grade guys are concerned, we are a pretty tight bunch at ringwood, i think you find most of them would be dissapointed if the B Res boys missed out on final because we were trying to 'save' the ground for them. As long as we have a team in A grade our B grade team is no different to any other team in our club.
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