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Post by Goblin on Jan 28, 2019 22:43:28 GMT 10
Ok all, what is the goss.
I'm hearing that there was a dustup during the Blackburn Vs Melbourne match last week. (allegedly)
Sounds as tho someone is going to have a VERY LONG holiday, perhaps of a record length.
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Post by enricopalazzo on Jan 31, 2019 13:04:46 GMT 10
Elephant in the room anyone?
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Post by enricopalazzo on Feb 1, 2019 10:22:57 GMT 10
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Post by mackem on Feb 1, 2019 20:41:26 GMT 10
According to BVSL website Matthew Wilson of Blackburn was suspended for the rest of this season and every SL season until the end of 2022/23
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Post by larry42 on Feb 2, 2019 11:41:57 GMT 10
According to BVSL website Matthew Wilson of Blackburn was suspended for the rest of this season and every SL season until the end of 2022/23 So he essentially gets a 110 plus game suspension for what exactly? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 21:08:18 GMT 10
The length of the suspension says that something very serious was involved - obviously at a higher end of the offences scale.
Under such circumstances, would it not be proper for BV to issue a statement outlining the nature of the conduct for which such a long suspension was imposed? If nothing else, that would at least provide clarity and would help circumvent rumour-mongering and misinformation when the details are not publicly known.
Further than that, and arguably more important, what support - if any - is being provided for the parties involved?
If we assume that the player and at least one umpire were involved (as seems to be the case, given the length of the suspension), both/all may have been seriously affected in their own separate ways by what happened.
I wonder has counselling and/or support for parties involved been offered? If not, surely it should at least be considered.
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Post by enricopalazzo on Feb 5, 2019 9:07:50 GMT 10
How many games did the umpire get for being aggressive toward the player and making ground toward the player?
Pathetic. Always the same guy. Comes to a point where you have to do something about him. 1, 2 even 4 or 5 instances yer you can forgive, but every single bloody weekend. It was bound to come to this. Time to do something about this guy. Not a single manager or player have anything positive to say about him.
Oh and dont expect the umpire director to do anything about it.
He's employed by him.
All together now - "CONFLICT OF INTEREST"
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Post by je55 on Feb 6, 2019 9:15:57 GMT 10
How many games did the umpire get for being aggressive toward the player and making ground toward the player? Pathetic. Always the same guy. Comes to a point where you have to do something about him. 1, 2 even 4 or 5 instances yer you can forgive, but every single bloody weekend. It was bound to come to this. Time to do something about this guy. Not a single manager or player have anything positive to say about him. Oh and dont expect the umpire director to do anything about it. He's employed by him. All together now - "CONFLICT OF INTEREST" Out of line here Enrico! I know the umpire and he's a good bloke who does his best to officiate games in a league were the umpire ranks are drying out faster than the Murray Darling Basin. Of course he will make mistakes just like every player and manager does every game, but he is out there providing a much needed service. He and the rest should be thanked and not exposed to anonymous, baseless insults and rumors like posted above. To KC's point about some kind of mediation and support for both parties I think would be a great idea. I wasn't there so unlike others I will not comment on the incident, but I do know both parties and consider them friends so I dont want to see either lost to the game or suffer any ongoing issues from the incident. A penalty for such offences must be handed down, but perhaps some more creative ways of educational punishment might work. Have the perpetrator umpire junior games, each game he umpires one is taken off his penalty. Have him sit down with umpire and discuss how the situation made each one of them feel, understand each others side and the ramifications that have come to them personally from it. I think just slapping a penalty does little to mend bridges and it is obvious its not working as a deterrent. We all need to make a better effort in our treatment of umpires, as there is no game without them. |
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Post by enricopalazzo on Feb 6, 2019 10:49:58 GMT 10
I know the umpire and he's a good bloke. does his best to officiate games. Of course he will make mistakes. He and the rest should be thanked. So your the one....... His best huh......ok The mistakes are piling up fast. Most players learn from them. The rest are sincerely thanked. They do a superb job. |
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Post by je55 on Feb 6, 2019 12:53:22 GMT 10
I know the umpire and he's a good bloke. does his best to officiate games. Of course he will make mistakes. He and the rest should be thanked. So your the one....... His best huh......ok The mistakes are piling up fast. Most players learn from them. The rest are sincerely thanked. They do a superb job. You obviously have a personal axe to grind with this umpire and umpires as a group by reading your posts, but unless you're prepared to attach your name to your comments then they are meaningless and cowardly. |
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Post by enricopalazzo on Feb 6, 2019 13:01:10 GMT 10
My name is Enrico Palazzo
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Post by doubleplay on Feb 13, 2019 6:38:28 GMT 10
My two cents worth here. I do know the umpire very well and I have found him to improve his player relations on the field especially over the last three or so seasons. He is a stickler for the rules and I don't have a problem with that. What is highly unacceptable in any sport except for soccer is approaching the Umpire with a menacing motion or action let alone physically pushing the Umpire. It is obvious that the player who only got basically 4 years had already been suspended for three games this season, so the player obviously has some issues. For all the faults that you experts may perceive that the umpire has. I still will rate him in the top 5 or so umpires this state has and wouldn't be so quick to poo poo him. I will admit over the years I wouldn't classify myself as an umpire lover, but coming back into the coaching ranks over the last two seasons, my respect and understanding of the job they do earns my admiration. So, for the players to get the respect that they think they deserve, just respect the arbitors and the game will respect you. It is a two way street. Besides the score book never lies. If your not sure of what happened, just read the book.
Rob Bowen
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Post by larry42 on Feb 14, 2019 11:29:29 GMT 10
My two cents worth here. I do know the umpire very well and I have found him to improve his player relations on the field especially over the last three or so seasons. He is a stickler for the rules and I don't have a problem with that. What is highly unacceptable in any sport except for soccer is approaching the Umpire with a menacing motion or action let alone physically pushing the Umpire. It is obvious that the player who only got basically 4 years had already been suspended for three games this season, so the player obviously has some issues. For all the faults that you experts may perceive that the umpire has. I still will rate him in the top 5 or so umpires this state has and wouldn't be so quick to poo poo him. I will admit over the years I wouldn't classify myself as an umpire lover, but coming back into the coaching ranks over the last two seasons, my respect and understanding of the job they do earns my admiration. So, for the players to get the respect that they think they deserve, just respect the arbitors and the game will respect you. It is a two way street. Besides the score book never lies. If your not sure of what happened, just read the book. Rob Bowen Agree - "What is highly unacceptable in any sport except for soccer is approaching the Umpire with a menacing motion or action let alone physically pushing the Umpire" Disagree - "rate him in the top 5 or so umpires this state has" |
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Post by enricopalazzo on Feb 14, 2019 13:43:23 GMT 10
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Post by larry42 on Feb 14, 2019 14:03:09 GMT 10
I have no connection to anyone he's dished out in the past, but you don't see many of them go in to games and look for issues from the outset. no good for the game. |
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Post by doubleplay on Feb 14, 2019 15:15:30 GMT 10
There is no point leveling criticism at the one bloke, all umpires are pretty much the same. I have learnt to just suck it in, and move on. Arguing gets you no where except a trip to the tribunal. It doesn't matter if the ump is good, bad or indifferent, just adjust and move on. And quite frankly I couldn't give a rats about what was heard from the so called Aces Coaching staff and others. When the Aces play good attractive Baseball, then I might consider going to watch them, maybe. Just show respect and the respect will be reciprocated. Instead there is too many people trying to poo poo the umpires, and I will bet my last dollar, these people wouldn't even umpire a T Ball game. So, IMO, move on and accept that people have their own differing opinion.
This weeks rant is now complete. HaHa.
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Post by krystalclear on Feb 22, 2019 13:30:40 GMT 10
My two cents worth here. I do know the umpire very well and I have found him to improve his player relations on the field especially over the last three or so seasons. He is a stickler for the rules and I don't have a problem with that. What is highly unacceptable in any sport except for soccer is approaching the Umpire with a menacing motion or action let alone physically pushing the Umpire. It is obvious that the player who only got basically 4 years had already been suspended for three games this season, so the player obviously has some issues. For all the faults that you experts may perceive that the umpire has. I still will rate him in the top 5 or so umpires this state has and wouldn't be so quick to poo poo him. I will admit over the years I wouldn't classify myself as an umpire lover, but coming back into the coaching ranks over the last two seasons, my respect and understanding of the job they do earns my admiration. So, for the players to get the respect that they think they deserve, just respect the arbitors and the game will respect you. It is a two way street. Besides the score book never lies. If your not sure of what happened, just read the book. Rob Bowen Your respect....do you mean standing in a coach box repeatedly yelling at the top of your voice that something is crap? |
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Post by doubleplay on Feb 22, 2019 13:52:06 GMT 10
Well it was crap. I kept it clean. And i only said crap four times.
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