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Post by Goblin on Aug 6, 2012 21:54:58 GMT 10
Please post relevant Masters details here
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2012 22:13:02 GMT 10
From someone who was there from the start, I must say that I don’t believe Masters players have been treated as well as they should be, although that maybe less the fault of Baseball Victoria (or any other body) and more to do with the fairly laid-back approach of older blokes over the years.
Like anyone, Masters players should expect value for money – among other considerations – and it is good to see that there is an advisory group working with Baseball Victoria to help deliver a competition that takes the players’ wishes into account.
There might be administrative issues with My Club, but I would hope that Masters players can choose which team they play for (at the start of a season). Whether it is their “home” club or not surely does not matter. If a player is attached to the Essendon club, for example (and plays or coaches seniors on a Sunday), but he wants to play with his mates at Sandringham in the Monday night competition, then why not if he is meeting his financial obligations to both?
We can make a reasonable assumption that many, or probably most Masters players have already served clubs and leagues in a decent capacity over the years. Different circumstances in Masters require flexibility. And the bottom line is always about creating playing opportunities, not finding ways to stop people playing.
There is always a cost in running any competition. I don’t know what Masters players currently pay for BV/ABF registration and club fees, but I hope it is reasonable. Whatever the cost is, it could not ever approach what the ABF tried to do to us some years ago, under a different regime.
For whatever reason, the ABF has never put any money or any time into Masters baseball. Yet, when it found out about the Victorian Masters Carnival (going back maybe ten years), it demanded a fee of fifty dollars a player to give us official sanction for the series. Just charge the players a higher entry fee, it was suggested to me. Or crank up prices at the bar.
When they were told politely where to go, the required payment came down to twenty bucks a player. After the same response, it was reduced to fifty bucks a team. Same response, though maybe not so polite. Then they left us alone to do our own thing, as they should if they are not going to have any positive input to the activity.
My point is that Masters players in general understand the obligations and the finances involved in running a viable competition. I’m confident that Baseball Victoria (unlike the ABF at that time) will be prepared to work with an advisory group to ensure that Masters are not being ripped off and that they are getting all or most of the playing conditions that they require as elder statespersons of the sport.
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Post by oldmanriver on Aug 7, 2012 9:02:11 GMT 10
Well spoken/typed
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