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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2012 16:22:25 GMT 10
FYI all.
Nominations for a range of Summer League sub-committee's closes 5pm this Wednesday.
The sub-committee's include a Womens sub-committee (5 positions) and a Masters sub-committee (3 positions).
I guess its (hopefully) a chance for anyone to be a part of the solution ?
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Post by wyatt33 on Jun 20, 2012 10:03:31 GMT 10
Is there a problem?
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Post by sueridgpipe on Jun 20, 2012 12:52:23 GMT 10
They are wanting you to apply wyatt, being the wide thinking , highly opinionated handy man that you are!
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Post by janet on Jun 21, 2012 18:47:37 GMT 10
I hope someone here can clarify this for me, I just read on the BV website that,
"The Board of Baseball Victoria has endorsed Clayton Crameri as its new Chairman and the Association's President, taking over from Rob Sadler who will step down from the positions on 30th June." And in the same article!
"Filling the position vacated by Rob Sadler will be Scott Dawes."
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Post by wyatt33 on Jun 22, 2012 6:59:07 GMT 10
Nah, I'll just do it from the comfort of my keyboard thanks.
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Post by gj on Jun 22, 2012 14:10:22 GMT 10
Janet, Assuming it means as Rob is leaving the board entirely, his board position will be filled by Scott. Clayton will take over the chairman / president role.
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Post by janet on Jun 22, 2012 18:31:10 GMT 10
I know this will not change anything but boy oh boy this sport is poorly run and these appointments/decision's confirm what I think! and to those coming onto commitee's, do as little as possible and you can go all the way to the top! And before any "knuckleheads" try to come back at me, I did read 4 years and 6.5 million visits and not 1 official response to anyone's questions!
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Post by 6for8 on Jun 22, 2012 19:02:45 GMT 10
Can someone put this mutt down?
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Post by janet on Jun 22, 2012 19:09:54 GMT 10
There you go....31mins....6.500002 visits.....knucklehead!
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Post by gj on Jun 22, 2012 19:25:36 GMT 10
Janet, I would take it from your reply that you are not fans of Scott or Clayton. Any reasons for this that you can share? As this is an unofficial forum, the BV officials are under no obligation to reply to anything - though perhaps if some of them followed Mark LeGrew's lead their job would get easier.
If there is something you really need answered from BV or ABF officers, the official channel is the one that should be used and not expecting an answer to something posted here.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2012 19:37:44 GMT 10
Janet if you think for a moment that much of the stuff you post in here does any good for our sport then you have got to be kidding yourself.
What are your truthful motives behind much of what you post herein ? - I'm curious.
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Post by houghy49 on Jun 22, 2012 23:59:27 GMT 10
Janet,
As an ex-BV employee I can tell you that the forum is a no go zone for staff members so I'm not sure what you're hoping to achieve from your posts but give up, it's not going to happen!
Maybe you should put your hand up to be on a committee if you're so caught up about what is and isn't be done by who should and shouldn't be doing it!!!
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Post by janet on Jun 23, 2012 10:21:56 GMT 10
gj, I've had a number of face to face conversations with people over time and every one has turned out to be a "used car salesman" telling me what they think I should hear at the time and none of their promises are met! You for one know the crap people who are trying to help the sport get fed and your 100% regarding Legrew, he has done a good job responding to the odd question and yes It would make their job easier.
authentic, I haven't mentioned you at all but you seemed compelled to comment back "again". Just because the administrators have dubbed you a "forum legend" doesn't make it so, it does make you irrelavent in your silly race to 1300 posts!
houghy49, were you used effectivley in you time at BV? or did they just "kill" time until your contract expired and say "thanks for your effort"? I know this forum is a "no post zone" but it is definatley a must read for them and officials are looking dumber by the day for this!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2012 18:25:53 GMT 10
Same old crap and nothing constructive, you are full of it janet !
Im happy to ignore you from here on in so long as you understand that I am pretty sure you are the female equivalent of a wanker.
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Post by janet on Jun 24, 2012 10:58:18 GMT 10
I never asked you to respond to me in the first place!
"Same old crap and nothing constructive". My 31 posts to your 1,294 of nothing......your a forum bully
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2012 11:27:52 GMT 10
Here's hoping that the aforementioned sub-committee's are a constructive mechanism to truly consult with clubs and players and that the decision making process genuinely includes recommendations that come from these committees.
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Post by eckersley43 on Jun 24, 2012 20:35:46 GMT 10
Usually when someone makes irrational, biased unfounded accusations (as In Janet) we would tell them to get involved instead of just criticising...but the prospect of Janet being in any decision making role is as scary as having a chimpanzee in charge of the nuclear button! Before Janet flies offf the handle again..I apogise..to all chimpanzees.
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Post by Journeyman on Jun 24, 2012 20:52:18 GMT 10
I figure she will be making a comment anyway, she's pretty much out of control! And very irrational.
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Post by perfeckt on Jun 24, 2012 21:17:54 GMT 10
I gotta say congratulations to janet! Whether you meant to or not janet you've got this thread (at least) getting abuzz and that has a positive effect by provoking outrage and discussion. I for one welcome your vitriol, it's both provocative and entertaining. Like you, I haven't taken a position or applied for position on a sub comm' , let alone a place on a board because of a multitude of reasons and this forum (Happy Birthday) should be an avenue for venting (if required) as well as positive construct.
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Post by gj on Jun 25, 2012 12:41:19 GMT 10
Everyone is assuming 'Janet' is a she. Maybe its someone using a different psuedonym to throw a bit of mud.
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Post by eckersley43 on Jun 25, 2012 14:08:59 GMT 10
perfeckt..There is a difference between being controversial and provoking debate, to Janet's accusations of incompetence whereby she names directly or by inference, clubs, coaches or administrator's without ever giving a shred of evidence despite numerous requests to "put up" On your argument it' would be good to slag off individuals because it would cause anger/discussion.No one is trying to stifle different opininions, but in Janet's case we never get any information beyond innuendo or hints at failures etc. P.S. Janet's (his/her) posts can't be DISCUSSED because there is never any basis given to back up the opinion. It's totally different to discussions on washout decisions etc which can be debated because we all know the situation.
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Post by oldmanriver on Jun 25, 2012 14:21:32 GMT 10
I agree with you perfeckt. It certainly brightened up my rather drab lunch by reading this
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Post by janet on Jun 26, 2012 15:53:01 GMT 10
gj, don't over think things, it gets you nowhere! perfeckt, not sure where I mentioned I haven't been a part of any commitee's. eckersley43, quite funny really......you know chimps and all, but I think I'll "dumb" thee forum bully No2. Maybe you should actually read before commenting, again I say "I've had a number of face to face conversations with people over time and every one has turned out to be a "used car salesman" telling me what they think I should hear at the time and none of their promises are met!" I thought this forum was about people having an opinion, not just your opinion! Also 1 question for what I promise will be very short DISCUSSION, tell me something that our new board member is going add to this game that he could not have done when actually in charge?
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Post by Chardy on Jun 26, 2012 18:31:57 GMT 10
Janet - why are you so angry at BV?
What happened to start all these rants?
Do you have a child who has been "given the raw end of the stick". Its the only reason I can think of that would make you so angry.
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Post by Journeyman on Jun 26, 2012 18:40:18 GMT 10
Nail on the head, I think chardy.
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Post by janet on Jun 30, 2012 17:44:38 GMT 10
Call it what you like chardy! I will always speak my mind and you stupidly think it's because my child got treated badly! BV are a badly run organization and the general baseball public accept it. Why I don't know! The number of posts put up here that are "sugar coated" astounds me and baseball will always lose people to other sports/hobbies like footy, golf because of the "boys club" mentality that employs unqualified people who will tow the party line! The fact that BV are reluctant to post even good news on this silly little forum is proof of that! They will say they're protecting the game, I think they're are not good enough at their jobs to know what they're doing or how to do it! Why not ring BV and ask how many people have applied for these committees? You won't get an answer if you do ring but the answer is, not enough! Nobody wants to do it!
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Post by texasleaguer on Jul 1, 2012 14:37:29 GMT 10
Call it what you like chardy! I will always speak my mind and you stupidly think it's because my child got treated badly! BV are a badly run organization and the general baseball public accept it. Why I don't know! The number of posts put up here that are "sugar coated" astounds me and baseball will always lose people to other sports/hobbies like footy, golf because of the "boys club" mentality that employs unqualified people who will tow the party line! The fact that BV are reluctant to post even good news on this silly little forum is proof of that! They will say they're protecting the game, I think they're are not good enough at their jobs to know what they're doing or how to do it! Why not ring BV and ask how many people have applied for these committees? You won't get an answer if you do ring but the answer is, not enough! Nobody wants to do it! Sounds like you could make a difference on a sub-committee janet, have you applied ?
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Post by oldmanriver on Jul 2, 2012 11:07:31 GMT 10
I can see both sides of the discussion, we the players and club members seem to pay an through the nose just play a sport that really probably ranks 5th or 6th in the pecking order of elite sport. IE. AFl, Cricket,Soccer,RugbyLeague/Union, Netball, Basketball etc. What really is needed is to hand the Association in principle back to the Clubs and have a paid Executive to handle the day to day running of the Association. In effect all we are doing is duplicating the ABF and just adding extra unnecessary cost to playing. The cost to play other sports like Football and Cricket is half the cost of playing Baseball. Just something to think about if cost cutting is required.
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Post by broohaha on Jul 2, 2012 22:07:40 GMT 10
So here you go again janet! Flying off the handle, unable to offer any solutions to your somewhat misguided abuse of baseball administrators/officials/committee members. You complain that everything is sugar-coated and no one knows what they are doing, they are not qualified but yet you do not substantiate these claims nor do you offer up any solutions or for that matter offer any positive input whatsoever! Your attitutude without action is quite simply an aggresive rant that does not help the game of baseball in any way! Oh and by the way, your high and mighty attitude is not admiring nor attractive but no doubt you'll respond with some stupid comment about others on here as bullies and try to put our game down even more! Your nothing but a time waster and as mentioned before, you really need to see someone about your deep-seeded anger or do you just need a hug?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2012 22:12:59 GMT 10
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