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Post by The Puma on May 11, 2012 13:38:30 GMT 10
Yep, no breaks for the young fella but he still has a bit of blured vision. He will see an eye specialist next week so here's hoping it's all good news.
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Post by stuartcapel on May 11, 2012 13:50:46 GMT 10
Wasn;t aware of the blurred vision - fingers crossed for him and hope he's back at short next time we play the Pumas.
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Post by thequietthinker on May 14, 2012 12:11:12 GMT 10
The Buzz around a certain DBA club is that a player has decided to make himself unavailable from selection as he did not appreciate the clubs new selection policy for future development.
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Post by sueridgpipe on May 14, 2012 14:31:15 GMT 10
Apparently it was a rather "SHORT" conversation!
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Post by sueridgpipe on May 14, 2012 14:32:59 GMT 10
Bonny lost three of four saturday to the angels. a grade was about 16-3 i think
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Post by dickieknee on May 14, 2012 22:11:21 GMT 10
Hey sueridgepipe. Are you an old septic receptacle member?
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Post by sueridgpipe on May 15, 2012 12:54:29 GMT 10
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Post by barb05 on May 15, 2012 13:16:45 GMT 10
The Buzz around a certain DBA club is that a player has decided to make himself unavailable from selection as he did not appreciate the clubs new selection policy for future development. Maybe she just felt old.
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Post by Buzz on May 15, 2012 15:50:24 GMT 10
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Post by stuartcapel on May 15, 2012 16:30:38 GMT 10
You say it best, when you say nothing at all!!
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Post by dazza33 on May 16, 2012 7:37:43 GMT 10
Was thinking exactly the same thing!
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2012 12:54:53 GMT 10
Was thinking exactly the same thing! Me three !
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Post by houghy49 on May 20, 2012 18:02:26 GMT 10
I heard a rumour yesterday that players are now required to swing a -3 bat. Can anyone confirm or deny and if so who is it applicable to and where can I find a copy of the ruling???
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Post by andywawra on May 20, 2012 19:21:18 GMT 10
I'm pretty sure that rule has been in place for 5 years. Check the league playing conditions.
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Post by MF on May 21, 2012 8:08:34 GMT 10
Interesting. Checking online, neither the summer BV "Playing Conditions" nor the winter DBA "Competition Rules" stipulate any weight/restrictions for their non-wooden divisions. Swing a -8!
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Post by jimmyk on May 21, 2012 8:29:19 GMT 10
I heard a rumour yesterday that players are now required to swing a -3 bat. Can anyone confirm or deny and if so who is it applicable to and where can I find a copy of the ruling??? All the bat restrictions for the DBA have been hidden under the junior rules section; page 52: Adult: -3, no barrel restriction can only swing -3
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Post by dazza33 on May 21, 2012 8:35:18 GMT 10
I think from memory, and it's fading, initialy it wasn't as much as an official ruling but more a supply issue from the major brands in the states, see they really only produced -5 for what they deemed as their senior league, our colts (U17) if you like, everything else was practically -3. They did however produce the -5 for the international market place.......The last to do so back then was Wilson (Demarini) and then even they decided the market just wasn't there eventually. Think there was some restrictions in state comps though. Not sure if anyone is still doing -5 these days?
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Post by houghy49 on May 21, 2012 9:05:19 GMT 10
I heard a rumour yesterday that players are now required to swing a -3 bat. Can anyone confirm or deny and if so who is it applicable to and where can I find a copy of the ruling??? All the bat restrictions for the DBA have been hidden under the junior rules section; page 52: Adult: -3, no barrel restriction can only swing -3 So this is suggesting that this is relevant to the Women's comp also?! I for one, can't imagine giving a first gamer a 32/29 to swing!!!! That's just ridiculous! Not sure why this is stipulated in the junior section either. The senior section only says who must swing wood, the rest must swing tin. Is this a new rule or has it been around for a while??
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Post by wearnie52 on May 21, 2012 9:31:06 GMT 10
Looks like i'm in trouble Houghy, i was swinging my -8 toothpick yesterday A -5 will be a struggle for a lot of the girls in the women's league. Especially considering most of the bats on the market for the girls are a 32 - 27.
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Post by The Puma on May 21, 2012 9:40:40 GMT 10
So a 14yo kid playing seniors has to swing a -3. lol good luck with that.
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Post by broohaha on May 21, 2012 10:12:48 GMT 10
Why should anyone have to swing a -3 bat? Some guys and gals have quicker hands than others and some are simply stronger, as long as the bat is legal (i.e. not corked, correct diameter etc) surely any bat that feels comfortable to swing should be allowed. It's simple physics, take weight away you lose power but increase speed so in relative terms it equals out. If we stuck to the -3 rule, the example wearnie52 gave of a 32-27 bat would bring the length back to 30in which wouldn't even cover the outside half of the plate!
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Post by dirtyword on May 21, 2012 11:27:32 GMT 10
(c) Baseball bats shall conform to the rules and standards as set out Australian Baseball Federation (ABF) T-Ball: 2 1/4" (Two and One Quarter Inches Diameter) shorter length bats may be used to suit smaller players. Under 12/13: 2 1/4" (Two and One Quarter Inches Diameter) Under 14/15: 2 5/8" (Two and Five Eighths Inches Diameter) Under 16/17: -5 (No Barrel Restriction, maximum length 33”) Under 18: -3 (No Barrel Restriction, can only swing a -3 or a -5 weight drop) Adult: -3 (No Barrel Restriction, can only swing a -3 weight drop)
As per above a 14yo can swing any weight drop as long as barrel is as specified.
Not sure it would hold up in court (which we know DBA clubs have been known to resort to), seeing that this is taken from a section with a qualifier of;
The following conditions will be operable for all junior Matches conducted by or under the Auspices of The Dandenong Baseball Association Inc. Note that these conditions should be read in conjunction with the Official Rules of Baseball and Rules of The Dandenong Baseball Association Inc.
Doesn't say it's applicable to 'open' or 'women's' grades
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Post by Marshy on May 21, 2012 11:36:43 GMT 10
Guys,
Not sure if I am telling you things you already know here or not, but technically, the "-3 Rule" is based on the Ball exit Speed ratio (BESR). They aren't trying to control the length and weight.
You see, in order for the bat companies to achieve the likes of a 34/29 (or minus 5) bat, they must make the walls of the bat incredibly thin. This has two effects:
1. Makes the bat weaker, which is why you often see them crack now days. 2. Make the walls "elastic" meaning the ball bounces of the bat much harder/further.
This is the reason that all non-wooden bats must be -3. It's an attempt to control the ever increasing exit speed of a batted ball off a bat, and hopefully, decrease the chance of injury.
It's a safety rule.
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Post by The Puma on May 21, 2012 12:19:20 GMT 10
For collage and the like I agree Marshy but for dba games? Seems a little extreme. There are guys in our B3 team who couldn't pick up a -3 let alone swing it.
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Post by houghy49 on May 21, 2012 12:52:19 GMT 10
I'm still curious to know if this rule has been around for years or if it's just come in this year (or even more recent this week as I was informed). If it's been around for years, then I'll continue to swing my -5
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Post by Marshy on May 21, 2012 12:53:21 GMT 10
I guess the various governing bodies, that includes DBA, VBA, MWBL and prob others, are taking a proactive stance, following the lead set by organisations in the US and banning bats that have the potential to cause serious injury.
It's probably an insurance "thing".
You're right, prob not a big deal in some of the lower grades, but then I guess the opposing argument is, is 2 ounces less really gonna make your swing THAT much better?
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Post by Marshy on May 21, 2012 12:57:34 GMT 10
Can't answer you Houghy, as I have never played in the DBA, but I know it's been a rule in BV for a considerable time. It's not policed as much as it could, generally because you only get official umpires in games where wood is compulsory (BIG generalisation there).
I remember it coming in some time just before wood bats became compulsory.
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Post by oldmanriver on May 21, 2012 13:42:16 GMT 10
I do remember at some Masters tournament on the Gold Coast that the -3 rule was supposedly coming to effect and that was about 8 years ago. Like most things done in baseball, it just gets clouded with bs and never fully explained. Good luck figuring it out.
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Post by sueridgpipe on May 21, 2012 13:46:14 GMT 10
Cracking game saturday down at Boneo. Dandenong lead all day basically only to have to pinch a win in the eleventh, good quality game with both starters throwing 10 digs( dandy) and Morris from Boneo going the distance!
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Post by oldmanriver on May 21, 2012 13:48:04 GMT 10
After Saturday I think Houghy should play off the handicap of -3 to bring her back to the field. d**n near won the game of her own bat.
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