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Post by bigman on Apr 7, 2010 13:16:06 GMT 10
I have read with interest many of the posts in the past, but this one has moved me to register and comment.
I have been fortunate to be involved in the game in many roles over a number of years, and in recent times when involved at National Championships, have had to obtain a Working with Children card.
Should those people presenting to championships at all levels as a scout or agent be required to also have a Working with Children card? In that case, the policy should be simple. Present a current card for the relevant State or you are refused admission to the complex. I appreciate that it does not stop someone attending as a spectator, but should remove the opportunity for anyone to represent themselves in an official capacity without the appropriate credentials.
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Post by mc15 on Apr 7, 2010 13:41:47 GMT 10
Bigman. I can tell you he ASC rolled ot a policy on working with children checks 12 months ago to assure that anyone employed in a professional nature with underage children must have that check competed. Jarrett in his "professonal role" would fall into this category. D-day for all sports in Australia is the 30th of June this year. As I am aware, the rcommendation was that anyone who had contact with underage kids should have this check done by 30th June. This has been the case in Queensland for quite some period of time and has also been the case in schools for a while now too. The only problem with the working with children checks is that someone needs to check them. Some ideas which may help clubs and praents:
1. Clubs write ammendments into their opperating procedures that a volenters workig with children check be undertaken for anyone working at the club in an official capacity (committee members coaches scorers etc)
2. Require the card to be produced by these officials each year in the presence of the committee each year
3. Parents demand to see a working with children card from anyone coaching your child or anyone who is approaching them in a pofessional capacity
Sounds like a bit of work but after all it's about protecting the kids.
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Post by Chardy on Apr 7, 2010 17:38:04 GMT 10
What if you are coaching say a 2nd Grade team in the winter and there are 1 or 2 or 3 kids under 18? I'm in that position myself and I wouldnt be in a hurry to go and get a "working with children check" done.
I dont mean to go off topic here, personally i'm not going to comment on Trevor Jarrett because I know nothing of the situation.
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Post by pakkyp on Apr 7, 2010 18:02:59 GMT 10
Your welcome to disregard it Chardy... your also welcome to pay any penalty for failing to follow the law. However a club knowingly allowing you to volunteer in such a manner may also be subject to penalty.
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Post by mc15 on Apr 7, 2010 19:38:23 GMT 10
What if you are coaching say a 2nd Grade team in the winter and there are 1 or 2 or 3 kids under 18? I'm in that position myself and I wouldnt be in a hurry to go and get a "working with children check" done. I dont mean to go off topic here, personally i'm not going to comment on Trevor Jarrett because I know nothing of the situation. I know it sounds ike a pain in the neck to do Chardy, but this is the reality we live in. I mean I work for a company with an impecable record in terms of screaning it's staff and protecting it's athletes, and yet we had to all get them regardless of our backgrounds. And that was over 50 people. We heard every excuse from evey staff member, me included, on why it was a waste f time. But the reality was that if we had nothing to worry about, why not get it for our own piece of mind and the piece of mind of those round you. Anyway, no pont me rabbiting on about it. Have a look at the link below and you decide of the relvance to you and your club. www.justice.vic.gov.au/workingwithchildren
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Post by philallen on Apr 7, 2010 20:14:33 GMT 10
Well put mc
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Post by rhricho on Apr 7, 2010 20:58:03 GMT 10
What sort of cost comes with this application??
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Post by jeezblue on Apr 7, 2010 21:00:06 GMT 10
[What if you are coaching say a 2nd Grade team in the winter and there are 1 or 2 or 3 kids under 18? I'm in that position myself and I wouldnt be in a hurry to go and get a "working with children check" done.] Bottom line Chardy, if you don't get a working with children clearance you won't be able to coach kids in the very near future, it isn't a huge ask for yours and every parents peace of mind. jeezblue
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Post by jeezblue on Apr 7, 2010 21:01:32 GMT 10
[quote What sort of cost comes with this application??[/quote] None if your a volunteer. jeezblue
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Post by rhricho on Apr 7, 2010 21:07:10 GMT 10
well i'm suprised - as I smelt a revenue raiser.
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Post by mc15 on Apr 7, 2010 21:15:38 GMT 10
What sort of cost comes with this application?? Tax deductable if you are a profressional
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Post by Chardy on Apr 7, 2010 22:28:18 GMT 10
If someone wants to supply me the forms and it doesn't cost anything then no problem - i've certainly got nothing to hide.
Rather annoying that because of a small percentage of the population are "COMPLETE SICKO'S" then the rest of us normal people have to put ourselves forward to be scrutinized.
Happy to hear there is no revenue raising on this.
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Post by larry42 on Apr 7, 2010 23:03:13 GMT 10
Basically you can download a form or pick one up from a Aust Post Office.
Supply one passport sized photo, fill in the form which takes 5-10 mins and then take it to a Aust Post Office to have your documents checked. You get a form (application receipt back) and then 2-4 weeks later get the card in the mail.
piece of pi$$....
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Post by jeezblue on Apr 8, 2010 7:16:37 GMT 10
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2010 17:21:36 GMT 10
The Working with Children Check is a welcome and essential initiative. But getting back to the specific subject of the thread......
I've heard on credible authority that the ABF has taken certain actions since this issue blew up about the same time last year (when he was sprung with a teenage baseballer in his car). While some might argue that it does not go far enough, Jarrett has been stripped of ABF Life Membership and all state associations have been contacted to inform them that he is unwelcome at any sanctioned baseball event.
While it would be reassuring to publicly hear from the ABF of such developments, there may (I don't know) be legal considerations such as those which (too) often work to protect the identity of known paedophiles. But even if there are issues with naming the person, there is surely nothing stopping the ABF from making a public statement on paedophilia and reassuring the baseball community of the processes and the responses that are in place to help protect our young people in the sport.
Time will tell if Jarrett responds to these measures, but it would be extremely foolhardy of him to show his face around any under-aged baseball event. While there would be nothing stopping him from turning up at an open-aged event on a public field (such as the Under 23s last weekend), one trusts that he would be given a suitably icy reception that would deter him from coming back.
The guy is readily identifiable (see the link and photograph posted by Goblin earlier). Baseball administrators, event organisers and clubs have a role to play in maintaining vigilance about this person and his ilk.
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Post by sumo on Apr 9, 2010 14:01:28 GMT 10
Wow! He's got some stones attending the 23's. I've heard he may have been sitting with a prominant NSW official. DOes anyone know if this is true?
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Post by dag on Apr 9, 2010 14:26:51 GMT 10
I've just read through this thread and "low and behold" this guy was allowed to run the game in this country at one stage and coach junior teams. From what I've seen, he'll end up with a "lifetime achievement award" Where is Derryn Hinch when you need him,...shame....shame....shame!
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Post by texasleaguer on Apr 9, 2010 21:48:44 GMT 10
The Working with Children Check is a welcome and essential initiative. But getting back to the specific subject of the thread...... I've heard on credible authority that the ABF has taken certain actions since this issue blew up about the same time last year (when he was sprung with a teenage baseballer in his car). While some might argue that it does not go far enough, Jarrett has been stripped of ABF Life Membership and all state associations have been contacted to inform them that he is unwelcome at any sanctioned baseball event. While it would be reassuring to publicly hear from the ABF of such developments, there may (I don't know) be legal considerations such as those which (too) often work to protect the identity of known paedophiles. But even if there are issues with naming the person, there is surely nothing stopping the ABF from making a public statement on paedophilia and reassuring the baseball community of the processes and the responses that are in place to help protect our young people in the sport. Time will tell if Jarrett responds to these measures, but it would be extremely foolhardy of him to show his face around any under-aged baseball event. While there would be nothing stopping him from turning up at an open-aged event on a public field (such as the Under 23s last weekend), one trusts that he would be given a suitably icy reception that would deter him from coming back. The guy is readily identifiable (see the link and photograph posted by Goblin earlier). Baseball administrators, event organisers and clubs have a role to play in maintaining vigilance about this person and his ilk. KC, By your post I am glad to see ABF are taking the appropriate response on this individual. I hope they make it well known through all State and Club internal communication Protocols. I see no value in having a public response on the ABF website about this issue about 1 individual, Our sport Nationwide is much bigger than 1 person. I applaud ABF for having the marketing sense not to do so. Let the issue be played out in the general media or forums such as this for sure and highlight it. BTW, the ABF Myclub system for all members already has the means to register all players,coaches and volunteers with their " Blue Card" working with children status.. Just that very rarely any club or State follows up with it. My Blue Card is # 171923/1, I've had it for many years now for baseball and other sports.. It is stored in the ABF MyClub system under my ABF rego number.. My baseball club pays every year to keep myself and other volunteers rego'd... Not that Hard Chardy. WE should all do it. For those who have Myclub access, go into edit member and click the B button, it asks for the member Blue Card ( working with children) number. It's a great club admin function added by ABF that most clubs tend to ignore as Too Hard to update.
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Post by parentofone on Apr 10, 2010 9:59:16 GMT 10
See Friday's Herald Sun page 5 "Monsters in the suburbs" for an interesting article on this very subject followed by an editorial on page 32.
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Post by Goblin on May 31, 2010 12:52:21 GMT 10
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Post by investigator on Oct 3, 2010 20:00:39 GMT 10
Hello
I am not involved in baseball but I do know about Trevor Jarrett. I just came across this thread.
Whilst employed by this school as a teacher Jarrett was at various times an English teacher and a librarian. Potentially worst of all, he was a boarding house master. This meant that he was in charge of boys who lived at the school during each school term. Jarrett shared a house with the boys 5-7 days a week.
After leaving the school Jarrett became a flight attendant for QANTAS and held a reasonably senior position.
The full extent of Jarrett's activities will probably never be fully known but at least he is currently being dealt with to some extent.
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Post by investigator on Oct 4, 2010 10:35:16 GMT 10
This was not the original message I posted. The original has been edited by an administrator to take out what I presume was regarded as an unfounded accusation concerning the activities of Jarrett who was one of my school teachers. This is presumably on the basis that if Jarrett came across these remarks he would regard it as a slur on his character!!! Unfortunately there was nothing unfounded about my remarks. The activity to which I referred in the now deleted portions of my post did in fact occur on several occasions. I have only posted this information to highlight that baseball was just another venue for Jarrett. It was nothing personal against your sport. Jarrett probably just saw baseball as a soft target. Hello I am not involved in baseball but I do know about Trevor Jarrett. I just came across this thread. Whilst employed by this school as a teacher Jarrett was at various times an English teacher and a librarian. Potentially worst of all, he was a boarding house master. This meant that he was in charge of boys who lived at the school during each school term. Jarrett shared a house with the boys 5-7 days a week. After leaving the school Jarrett became a flight attendant for QANTAS and held a reasonably senior position. The full extent of Jarrett's activities will probably never be fully known but at least he is currently being dealt with to some extent.
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Post by Goblin on Oct 4, 2010 13:46:54 GMT 10
This was not the original message I posted. The original has been edited by an administrator to take out what I presume was regarded as an unfounded accusation concerning the activities of Jarrett who was one of my school teachers. This is presumably on the basis that if Jarrett came across these remarks he would regard it as a slur on his character!!! Unfortunately there was nothing unfounded about my remarks. The activity to which I referred in the now deleted portions of my post did in fact occur on several occasions. I have only posted this information to highlight that baseball was just another venue for Jarrett. It was nothing personal against your sport. Jarrett probably just saw baseball as a soft target. Hello I am not involved in baseball but I do know about Trevor Jarrett. I just came across this thread. Whilst employed by this school as a teacher Jarrett was at various times an English teacher and a librarian. Potentially worst of all, he was a boarding house master. This meant that he was in charge of boys who lived at the school during each school term. Jarrett shared a house with the boys 5-7 days a week. After leaving the school Jarrett became a flight attendant for QANTAS and held a reasonably senior position. The full extent of Jarrett's activities will probably never be fully known but at least he is currently being dealt with to some extent. The post was edited because the information posted could attract legal repercussions for the poster and the forum admins for allowing such to be posted. Trevor Jarret is a convicted offender and deserves whatever the highest justice can deliver against him. Please refrain from posting information that could be deemed legally sensitive.
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Post by sandon on Oct 6, 2012 18:38:35 GMT 10
The school is at Rose Bay in Sydney. Jarrett was involved in Baseball at this time whilst also working as a librarian and live in boarding house tutor. Jarrett drove an Alpha Romeo Spider Convertible.
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Post by duke on Oct 6, 2012 21:46:02 GMT 10
A Rock Spider driving a Spider, sandon. That's a nice touch!
Seriously, if you have any knowledge of Jarrett's activities (and exactly why he left the school at short notice), please consider contacting Crime Stoppers if you have not done so already.
Good people have a moral obligation to speak up.
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