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Post by Chilli Wil on Dec 11, 2018 10:52:18 GMT 10
What happened in the Doncaster v Springvale game, by the looks of it both sides all got ejected? If I were a betting man, and I am, I would wager that the two individuals that were sanctioned for 2 & 3 weeks started a benches clearing incident. Springvale have been live-casting a few of their games (along with Berwick) so perhaps there is vision of the incident on Facebook?
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Post by enricopalazzo on Dec 11, 2018 11:42:50 GMT 10
Bench clearer confirmed.
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Post by farnt on Dec 12, 2018 14:41:32 GMT 10
Hmmm hope that wasn't the same game that they lined up before the game to discuss harmony, respect and walking away in light of Pat Cronin Foundation Round...
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Post by doubleplay on Dec 14, 2018 7:59:49 GMT 10
After a lot of consideration, this competition management system is a complete crock of S&*t. Unless the games that are washed out are replayed, the system becomes very unfair. Where as if the go back to the old point system of 2 for a win, 1 for a draw and 0 for a loss, there is no problem. Any person is entitled to their opinion, but in my opinion, Baseball Victoria couldn't organize a piss up in a brewery. They have managed to take one of the more simpler task and turn it into a nightmare. Is baseball Vic Summer League going to reschedule all washed out games or just going to put it into the too hard file and stick their collective heads into the sand like an emu/ostrich. Just enquiring? ??
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Post by enricopalazzo on Dec 14, 2018 10:01:02 GMT 10
WACK!!
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Post by doubleplay on Dec 20, 2018 9:20:34 GMT 10
As most people know me i am not one to hand out kudos to many people running this League, but credit must be given to the two Green Shirt umpires that we had on the weekend. Phil and Alexander did a terrific job and showed how easy it is to have a repore with players by just talking to them. It was a game of importance to both sides and in no way did they influence the result of the game which we lost 2 to 1. As a whole we should be encouraging these Green Shirt umpires and assist them along the way. The two we had on Sunday should be keepers as they displayed a good understanding of the game and what they need to do. Congratulations to both and I hope that they make a long and successful career out of Baseball Umpiring. And yes I will put my name to this. Rob Bowen
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Post by doubleplay on Jan 21, 2019 9:43:55 GMT 10
Just when I think that the Umpires are back on track by sending umpires to Pakenham last week, no third division game gets an umpire. What I want to know is, who is going to pay our volunteers to umpire the games. This isn't the first time we have had no umpires and quite frankly, this isn't good enough. Surely there must be more than 24 umpires attempting to be officials of the game. Not being a betting man, but is a Div 1 3rds and 4ths more important than a Div 3 1sts and 2nds. I think not. Even though BV can't see past the top two divisions, they are very happy taking our money which is the same as everyone else. I do wonder if the League thinks that we are even part of this association or just the leper colony paying the same high extortion fees just to look at the shop window. Not bloody likely. The Div 3 clubs have the same voting power. That's it, my rant for the month. I don't expect a reply from the offices of non importance, but now it is off my chest I can now feel better for the therapy that this has given me.
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Post by fuzzy on Jan 25, 2019 12:19:13 GMT 10
The fixture for the final home/away round Saturday 23rd Feb has got 3.30pm start, don't we usually start at 2.00pm ?
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Post by mackem on Jan 25, 2019 12:50:21 GMT 10
The fixture for the final home/away round Saturday 23rd Feb has got 3.30pm start, don't we usually start at 2.00pm ? Yes the start time is 2pm but BV are slower than a snail in changing things
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Post by wyatt33 on Jan 29, 2019 6:25:27 GMT 10
Just when I think that the Umpires are back on track by sending umpires to Pakenham last week, no third division game gets an umpire. What I want to know is, who is going to pay our volunteers to umpire the games. This isn't the first time we have had no umpires and quite frankly, this isn't good enough. Surely there must be more than 24 umpires attempting to be officials of the game. Not being a betting man, but is a Div 1 3rds and 4ths more important than a Div 3 1sts and 2nds. I think not. Even though BV can't see past the top two divisions, they are very happy taking our money which is the same as everyone else. I do wonder if the League thinks that we are even part of this association or just the leper colony paying the same high extortion fees just to look at the shop window. Not bloody likely. The Div 3 clubs have the same voting power. That's it, my rant for the month. I don't expect a reply from the offices of non importance, but now it is off my chest I can now feel better for the therapy that this has given me. I remember asking a question of a paid employee at bv at presentation night, why there was no mention of div 3 in the evenings proveedings, and not even a quick mention of the divisions win club, and was told there isn’t enough time. I mentioned that we were forced to purchase 4 tickets to the evening, and he shrugged and moved on. It’s a disgrace that voting and financial clubs are treated this way book, but you know as well as I, that there are about 6 clubs in first division(one tradition club is actually in 2nd right now) that think the whole game revolves around them and that’s it....makes it hard to get any traction when this happens every meeting headed by bv.
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Post by doubleplay on Jan 29, 2019 14:32:00 GMT 10
Gareth My boy, If BV actually had people that knew about baseball maybe and only maybe will all Clubs get a fair rub of the green. But the so called nuffies running the show couldn't organize the proverbial piss up in the brewery of any mans choice. The only way is to get the power off the nuffies is to go back to the Clubs running Baseball and controlling the so called workers. All Clubs have an equal say and should be treated as such. The so called clubs that think that this association is just for them need to have the proverbial rocket shoved where the sun don't shine and start thinking past their club house front door. Last time I looked there is nearly 30 Clubs actively involved not 6 or 7.
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Post by wyatt33 on Jan 29, 2019 14:54:36 GMT 10
I agree but there are still a few clubs that think going to P&S meeting aren’t important enough to attend....and that the ones we ho too are hijacked by clubs spending 40 mins discussing whether you can dress 25 or 26 for playoffs and whether a bat boy counts as a dressed player....then we don’t have a hope of changing things! I’ve been banging on for years that the best people to run the game, want to run their clubs. It’s a big issue. I know we’ve had suggestions over the year to try and benefit the game, not just us, and it’s never got past the first email response. It’s just no good. I honestly don’t know what can be done. Again, these paid folk at bv use it as stepping stone to a bigger job at table tennis act. You pay peanuts you get monkeys....
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Post by enricopalazzo on Jan 30, 2019 6:19:27 GMT 10
All i can say is. MLB players fail as administrators.
Done sweet F.A for the game in Vic
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Post by doubleplay on Feb 6, 2019 9:37:43 GMT 10
Just filling in a bit of time during morning smoko and thought I would look at the list of MVP for all Divisions. Only found Div 1 and Div 2 and the Womens. Apparently Div 3 don't count but these incompentent admin people are quite happy to rip money of the Div 3 Clubs but give no recognition. It just about sums up this Association that has sunk to almost the depths of no return. It is not even a glass half full situation, it is just a complete and total disregard for all playing members of this Association. If the Div 3 Clubs don't get the recognition it deserves, don't invite us to your Gala night and charge us the extortion prices that you are asking for. That's it. My Wednesday rant is done and dusted for another week.
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Post by enricopalazzo on Feb 6, 2019 10:45:33 GMT 10
Just filling in a bit of time during morning smoko and thought I would look at the list of MVP for all Divisions. Only found Div 1 and Div 2 and the Womens. Apparently Div 3 don't count but these incompentent admin people are quite happy to rip money of the Div 3 Clubs but give no recognition. It just about sums up this Association that has sunk to almost the depths of no return. It is not even a glass half full situation, it is just a complete and total disregard for all playing members of this Association. If the Div 3 Clubs don't get the recognition it deserves, don't invite us to your Gala night and charge us the extortion prices that you are asking for. That's it. My Wednesday rant is done and dusted for another week. Brilliantly written. Spot on!
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Post by The Puma on Feb 6, 2019 17:44:08 GMT 10
Just filling in a bit of time during morning smoko and thought I would look at the list of MVP for all Divisions. Only found Div 1 and Div 2 and the Womens. Apparently Div 3 don't count but these incompentent admin people are quite happy to rip money of the Div 3 Clubs but give no recognition. It just about sums up this Association that has sunk to almost the depths of no return. It is not even a glass half full situation, it is just a complete and total disregard for all playing members of this Association. If the Div 3 Clubs don't get the recognition it deserves, don't invite us to your Gala night and charge us the extortion prices that you are asking for. That's it. My Wednesday rant is done and dusted for another week. 3 years ago we won the div 3 flag in our first ever season of summer. At the pres night there was no mention of it or any other div 3 awards. We asked why were were changed to attend a night that didn't involve us and were told there wasn't time for div 3. It seems they weren't just referring to the night.
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Post by doubleplay on Feb 8, 2019 13:09:52 GMT 10
Trav my boy, I can't remember the last time BVSL had time for anything lower than Div 2. But like most incompentent non functioning bodies, they are a blinkered organization and the Div 1 & 2 Clubs can't see past there long snotty noses. If the records are scanned, you will find that most of these Clubs have spent time or originated out of Div 3. Short memories and even shorter sightedness. All Div 3 Clubs should boycott the night, not pay the bill and tell them to shove the account where the sun doesn't shine. Maybe even the Div 4 Clubs should do the same. If they can't respect the whole playing body, why should we respect the ning nongs that run and organise this association and just driving it to a point of no return. Stand up Clubs and wave your flag and tell this Association, enough is enough. Two rants in one week. I better lay down and have a rest.
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Post by fuzzy on Feb 8, 2019 23:21:50 GMT 10
Does anyone know why you can't access the Stats 3 days after a game ?
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Post by rebelwithoutaclue on Feb 11, 2019 7:53:10 GMT 10
Does anyone know why you can't access the Stats 3 days after a game ? My guess is stats are now locked ahead of the end of season awards.
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Post by fuzzy on Feb 17, 2019 19:19:15 GMT 10
Unless my maths through my glass of red are incorrect Geelong and Sunshine will playoff in the Western Conference and Upwey and Blackburn in the Eastern Conference. Final ladder position may change depending on next weeks results.
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Post by stuartcapel on Feb 17, 2019 20:02:35 GMT 10
Just off the mens game, ventured to Cheltenham yesterday and saw a Women's Division Three match. Left the game having seen a green shirt umpire who did an excellent job - if he made one incorrect ball/strike call then I'd be surprised. Not sure of his name, but whoever you are, Sir - well umpired.
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Post by Goblin on Feb 18, 2019 13:31:37 GMT 10
Unless my maths through my glass of red are incorrect Geelong and Sunshine will playoff in the Western Conference and Upwey and Blackburn in the Eastern Conference. Final ladder position may change depending on next weeks results. You better have another glass of Red Fuzzy as you are making to much sense.
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Post by doubleplay on Feb 19, 2019 10:26:15 GMT 10
How can the Competition Manager completely stuff up a finals draw? Easy, start the Div 3 2nds games at 12.00midday when the Juniors finish at 11.00am. Not much time if the Junior Coach is coaching Juniors then playing at 12.00 in say St.Kilda($5.20 for parking if you don"t mind umpire). A fair bit of lack of foresight. The dumba*** reasoning being that the teams might need extra time if there is a draw. An extra hour, really. What a load of crap. Time to get a baseball understanding person to get this anomoly right. Better still. Get rid of the whole bloody lot and start again from scratch. Mediocrity is something that the Baseball community has had to put with now for well over a decade. Sort it out now Competition Manager and wake up to yourself. Clubs don't helicopters to nip around in and grounds don't have helipads. There you go, my rant for the week, so far.
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Post by enricopalazzo on Feb 19, 2019 12:26:48 GMT 10
Time to get a baseball understanding person. Get rid of the whole bloody lot and start again from scratch. Mediocrity is something that the Baseball community has had to put with now for well over a decade. Your whole statement is spot on. If clubs actually found out what Justin Huber did. There would be a total uproar and lynching. The bloke is a total fail as CEO. Never answers phone calls, never answers emails, never answers to the baseball people. He is a total pretender trying to high fly. Has now ruined his legacy in this country with his failures. BV is the laughing stock of Australian Baseball and the most hated organisation for Victorians. Well done. Baseball is just about fu**ed. Well done indeed
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Post by doubleplay on Feb 19, 2019 12:56:39 GMT 10
Just off the beaten track a bit, but last night during a discussion about the state of Junior Baseball, it came up that for 20 weeks at the cost of $500.00, selected kids can go the so called academy and learn and practice baseball. What a frigging joke. Then in the same breath, I heard that our illustrious High Performance Manager stated that 10 year old kids should decide on the spot as to whether they play baseball or night at a high level. Who is this crackpot kidding. We as a whole are playing a third or fourth tier sport with no prospects whatsoever of ever advancing past this level. All these academies is just designed for the so called HPM to justify his spot on the gravy train. He never gives recognition to the club coaches that in their time for free to teach the little darlings. It is all about him. And what do you get for $500.00? Probably no more than if you went to 20 club training sessions which in effect are free after paying your club fees. We are not an elite sport. Way behind in cricket which only costs one third of what it costs to play baseball. It is amazing that the majority of the Cricket Associations that in some cases are three times larger than Baseball in this state have only one paid administrator and a lot of volunteer board members that come from the Clubs and duly elected each season as their time elapses. We don't need all the underpaid nuffies. Straight away there is a saving. Enough before I do get really carried away.
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Post by doubleplay on Feb 22, 2019 10:51:57 GMT 10
At which stage does the competition Manager actually do work or at least answer requests. Since last Monday we have asked that the Div 3 2nds final at St Kilda be pushed back half an hour to allow some of our players who are involved with our junior program to fulfill their duties in a junior final that doesn't finish until 11.00am. The bloody final starts at 12.00 midday. Who ever thought this crock of nuts up needs a labotomy. It is well known that this person doesn't know where her elbow is from her backside and has no idea what a melways looks like or where any of the suburbs are in relation to where people have to travel. At one stage she thought Morwell was just down the road from Bonbeach. I rest my case. It is now time to at least hire a person that 1. knows the suburban set up and 2. have some sense and call a mobile phone a mobile phone and not a cell phone. It's Friday and I am done with todays rant. Have a good weekend and may all walk away winners in some form or another.
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Post by doubleplay on Feb 22, 2019 12:17:35 GMT 10
Joy oh Joy. Our game in Div 3 2nds has been changed to 12.45pm. A miracle has occurred.
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Post by krystalclear on Feb 22, 2019 13:27:19 GMT 10
Joy oh Joy. Our game in Div 3 2nds has been changed to 12.45pm. A miracle has occurred. Consider yourself blessed. Knob
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Post by doubleplay on Feb 22, 2019 13:53:42 GMT 10
Blessed be the kind and understanding to the simple.
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Post by The Puma on Feb 23, 2019 14:18:00 GMT 10
At which stage does the competition Manager actually do work or at least answer requests. Since last Monday we have asked that the Div 3 2nds final at St Kilda be pushed back half an hour to allow some of our players who are involved with our junior program to fulfill their duties in a junior final that doesn't finish until 11.00am. The bloody final starts at 12.00 midday. Who ever thought this crock of nuts up needs a labotomy. It is well known that this person doesn't know where her elbow is from her backside and has no idea what a melways looks like or where any of the suburbs are in relation to where people have to travel. At one stage she thought Morwell was just down the road from Bonbeach. I rest my case. It is now time to at least hire a person that 1. knows the suburban set up and 2. have some sense and call a mobile phone a mobile phone and not a cell phone. It's Friday and I am done with todays rant. Have a good weekend and may all walk away winners in some form or another. It's actually against the playing conditions to schedule 2 play off games at the same venue. e) The game duration for Seniors Play-off games shall be as follows: i) Division 1 Firsts and Reserves, Division 2 Firsts and Reserves, Division 3 Firsts and Reserves - Play-off games being 9 innings with no timelimit. ii) All other Divisions Play-off games being 7 innings with no time limit. b) Higher sections shall be given preference when determining the venue of Play-off games. If a higher section of a club has already been scheduled to play a Play-off game at that club’s venue and a lower section of the same club is scheduled to play a Play-off game on the same day, then: i) If the club has an alternative diamond available that meets the minimum standards set forth in Table 20.1, the Competition Coordinator may schedule the lower section Play-off game on the alternative diamond, otherwise; ii) If the second-ranked team has a diamond available that meets the minimum standards set forth in Table 20.1, the Competition Coordinator may schedule the lower section Play-off game at the second-ranked team’s venue, otherwise; iii) The Play-off game for the lower section shall be scheduled at a neutral venue as determined by the Competition Coordinator. c) Due to time constraints, only timed Play-off games may be scheduled before a regular season or another Play-off game one after another on the same venue at the discretion of the Competition Coordinator. So now we have a 9 innings game scheduled to start at 12.45 and another 9 innings game starting at 3.30
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